Posted on 03/13/2014 12:40:02 AM PDT by hamboy
Before the flight disappeared from radar screens, the Malaysia's civil aviation heard the words, "All right, good night", The Straits Times reported.
There is however, conflicting reports on what exactly were the last words. The BBC says that the last heard reply from flight MH370 was "All right, roger that".
The meeting held in a packed room with nearly 400 relatives at the Metropark Lido hotel in Beijing, non-the-less, is important as anguished family members were given the chance to ask direct questions to the investigating authorities for the first time.
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The official seemed to digress from the question when he said that the military was assisting investigations "at a high level".
When the family members repeatedly asked the male official present, he reportedly only said "now is not the time to reveal it."
The incident bolsters a viral theory circulating among the worried members of the family that there are some ongoing secret negotiations with terrorist who possibly hijacked the plane, the Strait Times noted. The official had also said earlier that he hoped that the passengers are alive.
(Excerpt) Read more at ibtimes.co.in ...
My point is simply that ACARS is NOT a black box mime and has NEVER been one. It is NOT a continuous feed. A steep dive may or may not cause it to ping.
The way the WSJ article was written implied that this is a continuous data stream which it is not.
Not exactly. The ACARS can be programmed to send information on a wide variety of parameters on que, such as at a particular radar altitude, change in configuration (slats, flaps, gear) or at a particular time interval to transmit engine data.
For example ACARS is how airlines monitor their crews for stable approaches (speed, configuration, vertical velocity, deck angle, g-loading, etc.), triggering a message with various parameters at 500, 1000, or 1500 feet on final (examples). But the ACARS doesn't transmit continuously since that would cost too much for all the extra messaging (especially overwater with SATCOM as primary).
This is what strikes me as strange: if indeed RR and Boeing got routine ACARS messages on engine performance hours later, then surely the airline also got numerous ACARS messages that were automatically sent. And if they did, then why are they so secretive about the content of them, or even their existence?
I read that Malaysia Airlines opted out Boeing’s jet-data service. The active Malaysia transport minister denied there were such data. But Boeing (and Rolls Royce, maybe) still received the jet-data to Boeing servers, by default. People don’t just disclose hot stuffs because they signed NDA’s. I hope they’ll be more infos coming soon.
There seems to be a lot of conflicting and wrong information being disseminated by government officials involved. It’s almost as if they are trying to buy time. T
There are so many odd things -
1. life raft found and then oopsie! It sunk while we were trying to haul it onto the boat and we never bothered sending a diver to retrieve it.
2. Flight paths in about 4 different directions
3. Contact by radio from another plane
4. Oil platform worker saw a fireball but no wreckage in the area..
Just very odd..
Mr. Kitty’s theory from several days ago. Hijacked and flown at low altitude somewhere.
Did the aircraft have enough fuel to fly to Iran, Pakistan or Afghanistan?.......................
Curious-er.
Shortly after the place disappeared from radar, someone issued a Tweet that said the plane had landed in extreme south part of Vietnam.
That Tweet was quickly quelled as a hoax or non-truth.
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Since then, the plane wreckage has been noticed more toward Hong Kong,
in the Indian Ocean,
near Sumatra,
in the South China Sea,
east of Vietnam,
between Malaysia and Vietnam,
south of the line between Malaysia and Vietnam, etc.
Past FR link from 2005:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1486262/posts
Did this 777 have a bad history from 2005? read the attached link.
http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2005/aair/aair200503722.aspx
In-flight upset; Boeing 777-200, 9M-MRG,
PILOTS on a Boeing 777 from Perth to Kuala Lumpur battled to gain control of the plane last month after an unknown computer error caused the aircraft to pitch violently and brought it close to stalling.
A flight attendant dropped a tray of drinks and another began praying as the Malaysian Airlines pilots fought to counter false information being fed into the aircraft’s autopilot system and primary flight display.
The glitch prompted plane manufacturer Boeing to issue a global notice to all 777 operators alerting them to the problem.
Flight MH124 was about an hour out of Perth when the aircraft began behaving erratically. The incorrect data from a supposedly fail-safe device caused the plane to pitch up and climb 3000ft (914m), cutting its indicated airspeed from 500km/h to 292km/h and activating a stall warning and a “stickshaker”.
A stickshaker vibrates the aircraft’s controls to warn the pilot he is approaching a speed at which the plane will have insufficient lift to keep flying
Yes they have not found one shred of that plane. If it went down in the ocean there would be debris and bodies floating.
The black box has a transponder and its pretty indestructable.
Somebody correct me if I’m wrong but if the tower loses voice communication that does not mean the plane just goes off radar. They would still be tracking it on radar unless it finally got down to the 500 ft level or whatever.
Supposedely the Rolls Royce engines were still sending out info every half hour for 4 more hours.
The whole thing is just bizarre.
or they are setting up for a rescue operation. I am sure they know and have known what happened to this plane.
The missing Malaysian jet is just like dumping OBL at sea. A mystery with no video or photos of it. All comm and transponders apparently were turned off. Aircraft expert software hacker aboard? How could other countries' RADAR not intercept this aircraft???
I can imagine Muslim gov't officials saying "If they don't find the wreckage, we can pretend we don't know what happened" even though they KNOW it was shot down over deep waters... Makes perfect sense to lie or deceive in that culture. But I think the aircraft was shot down over the Indian Ocean, possibly by Malaysian F/A-18's. A pilot could've been given orders to shoot it down but gov't officials dispute order was given and by whom, so Malaysian gov't is.. Stalling.
You think this is a set-up for a SEAL team to boost Obama’s approval ratings? I don’t rule ANYTHING out at this point. Malaysia is Muzzie friend of King Barry.
Ever heard the term “below the RADAR”? That’s possible here, I suppose.. But what about tracking via satellite?
Yeh thats what I’m saying the radar should have tracked the plane til it got down under radar level. There is so much hinky stuff going on with this one it just seems weird.
The search area is 6 times the size of the United States.
Upon hearing the plane no debris found, no flash in the sky along the waypoints, ATC and ADS-B transponders turned off, neither the Flightware nor FlightRadar24 have tracks of the flight, Chinese passengers' smartphones seen by relatives still online at QQ, that means something unusual out of ordinary.
Based in the above, obviously the plane might have been hijacked, people commandeering the plane know what they're doing but they didn't know ACARS, avionics stuff pilots don't always know about nor they can turn off, also enabled in the plane.
There is NO verification that any data was sent after 1:07 am so quit speculating. Your example of programability is for one of the crucial data sets that are looked at... take off, climb, approach, landing.
It is NOT a real time black box mime
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