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1 posted on 03/11/2014 6:56:30 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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I would ignore said judge. And they could have my guns if they could find them.


2 posted on 03/11/2014 6:59:01 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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3 posted on 03/11/2014 6:59:49 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What, oh what is this thing called 'Stupid'?)
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Zero common sense strikes again to destroy another life over a trivial matter.


5 posted on 03/11/2014 7:01:11 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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He’s 18. This is a “school district rule” violation, not a general law. How can the judges be so insane? If he wasn’t in school, all of this would have been perfectly legal.

Ridiculous as it is, why isn’t it a school discipline problem and not a state court/felony matter?


6 posted on 03/11/2014 7:02:11 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Zero Tolerance = Zero Common Sense.
A pocket knife is a TOOL. It's not a weapon until used as such.
Any tool can be used as a weapon. Even pencils. Are they banned too?

8 posted on 03/11/2014 7:02:29 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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A felony permanently prohibits him from owning firearms for life.

Furthermore, while it is easy enough to criticize the school or the judge for the policy of the conviction, note that the Army has also terminated his program, meaning that the Army itself is taking this criminal charge at face value.


9 posted on 03/11/2014 7:06:29 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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“zero tolerance policy against bringing weapons onto school property — a class 5 felony.”

Is ANY knife a felony? I don’t see that the article listed the size of the knife. I assume if he bought it at K-Mart, it was a fairly basic pocket knife...?

My kid brought a knife to school a few years ago, and showed it off to some friends. The school was reasonable about it. No arrest, ankle bracelets, felony records, etc. Its still a crazy world where they can’t even have a knife (this was a leatherman/swiss army kind of contraption), but at least they didn’t go bonkers over it.


11 posted on 03/11/2014 7:10:24 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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Utter nonsense.


12 posted on 03/11/2014 7:10:29 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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dimwits

evil

stupid

crazed with power

dimwits


13 posted on 03/11/2014 7:13:00 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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A class 5 felony insanity in Ohio.

I've carried a pocket knife since I was a little kid, through grade school, jr and senior high. Most kids did.

Fast forward to 2014, I use my Spyderco EDC at least once a day, usually for opening something in plastic or as a letter opener, nothing as noble as an EMT does cutting seat belts, but I use it every day.

“Do you think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken.
There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power the government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them.
One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
– Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957

14 posted on 03/11/2014 7:13:19 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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found during the unauthorized search of his car.

I shoulda been tossed on that basis alone. But notice how big a car is, how much kinetic energy it can deliver onto a target, that it carries a flammable substance called gasoline. It is a far, far deadlier weapon than that knife. Why don't the schools have a zero tolerance policy against such deadly things on campus? Because the administrators themselves need to use them, so they're "Reasonable" about it.

15 posted on 03/11/2014 7:16:32 AM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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From the article:

Jordan Wiser, an 18-year-old student at Ashtabula County Technical and Career Campus in Jefferson, Ohio, is an EMT trainee with a passion for self-defense and public service.

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...Ashtabula County assistant prosecutor Harold Specht...

The school can be contacted here. One contact number is given as 440-576-6015. Still searching for further contact information, and the names of these unnamed "administrators."

17 posted on 03/11/2014 7:21:28 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kinds of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of lawbreakers - and then you cash in on guilt.”

From “Atlas Shrugged,” by Ayn Rand (1957)


22 posted on 03/11/2014 7:27:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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America has lost its damned mind.


23 posted on 03/11/2014 7:30:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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“ordered to remove all weapons from his house”

They want the steak knives too?


24 posted on 03/11/2014 7:32:41 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Arresting honest, normal, non-violent people and deliberately ignoring violent criminals.

This way they get the arrest numbers up without ever being in any danger.

Then they can get on TV and say they are arresting criminals.

No. They are declaring innocent people to be criminals, while willfully, intentionally, with full awareness and knowledge, leaving hardened criminals to commit their crimes.


29 posted on 03/11/2014 7:42:06 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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Government school is adult abuse as well as child abuse.


30 posted on 03/11/2014 7:42:36 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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"I bought it at K-Mart and have it as part of my first responder kit for cutting seat belts.”

I have to say...while these administrators are out of their farking minds, this kid seems bright enough to know better. If he wanted a tool to cut seat belts, there are specific tools that are designed for that. An 18 year old who has been paying attention to the kind of crap going on around this nation in the past few years...should not have had any knife on him at all when on school grounds.

32 posted on 03/11/2014 7:48:06 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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IN HIS CAR?????
A pocketknife????

We are seriously so screwed....


33 posted on 03/11/2014 7:48:33 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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It reads like this is a pre trial release.

I wonder if the prosecution can get this by a jury?

37 posted on 03/11/2014 7:51:44 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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