All together now: *Thump* *thump* *thump* Cigareets and whisky and wild wild women...
Posted on 03/10/2014 7:26:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
A SUNY Brockport student from West Seneca and a Genesee County man have been arrested for allegedly forcing a dog to be held upside down and drink beer.
Brockport Police report that Robert Yates, 20, took a photo of the dog being held over the beer keg and posted it to Twitter at a Saturday night house party. Officers also arrested Shane Oliver, 20, of Bergen. Both are facing charges of torturing/injuring animals.
The dog’s owner was apparently not involved.
The college issued a statement saying, “We were alarmed to learn of this disturbing photo. The College is investigating this matter and will take appropriate action once the details surrounding the photo are learned.”
I didn’t say “everybody else does it”. I said animals, at least some of them, do know about alcohol and seek it out deliberately. Birds get “drunk” off slightly-overripe berries, many jungle animals including monkeys will deliberately eat fermenting fruit. And, as I mentioned earlier, right in my general neighborhood there are at least two elephant herds that I am aware of that like to go on palm-wine benders. Obviously it’s not right to force an animal to become drunk as was described in OP, but saying “animals don’t know better” is ignorant.
I knew you didn’t have the balls.
Do you honestly think anyone believes you were a victim of *my* unsolicited attack?
Dream on.
And sober up.
Your projection is showing.
When I was young....some iron workers I know had a cat that would Fight for screwdrivers.....seriously it would claw the sht out of everyone until some was poured for it.
ohwell
Are domesticated animals, i.e. the dog in question, *not* under our stewardship?
Are we not responsible for preventing them from doing things harmful to them, whenever humanly possible?
Bringing wild animals into the discussion is a red herring, at best.
The topic is giving a pet dog alcohol.
*Not* what animals in “nature” do, apparently to their great detriment.
And animals do not and can not “know better”.
They are animals.
Until animals are capable of moral decisions, they are also incapable of “knowing better”.
Lemmings run off cliffs.
Should this be an acceptable behavioral norm for all small mammals, then?
[and sorry, that was a red herring retort]
All together now: *Thump* *thump* *thump* Cigareets and whisky and wild wild women...
That was truly beneath you.
If you can not argue facts without resorting to ridiculous hyperbole, drop the debate.
But I did post all the stuff you told me to.....try reading through it in the mornin you might see......better then.
You obviously know how to mail me.
In the morning when confronted buy the depths of your inadequacy, assailed by regret you can apologize and I promise not to post it publicly...ok?
ok then.Dont mail me till morning.
Since you lack the testicular fortitude, allow me to correct the “timeline”, as it were.
Initial mail sent to me:
I know people who cheerfully slurped down antifreeze.....
I know a few rule-bound constipated ass-hats who celebrate every new aspect of freedom reduction that mass media can conjure up....I know a lot of strange people.
So pitiful that you have to lie in an attempt to give weight to your position.
A friend of mine had a dog that would knock over your beer to get at it!!
You intentionally pasted them out of order to make it seem as though I contacted *you*, first.
As if.
Was there no other leg available for humping tonight?
Are you disappointed that this leg is *not* that of a man?
Hmmmm.
The temperance movement was about alcohol for humans, not animals/
Is that where the “elephant rage” thing came from?
or is the elephant rage natural?
Then this newest logical fallacy ~might~ qualify as a straw man.
What next?
Slippery slopes?
False Dilemmas?
Equivocations?
Godwin’s law?
I can hardly wait.
Elephant rage, I suspect, is another term for “musth”. Musth is the hormonal condition that male elephants develop during mating season, when they become incredibly aggressive. They’ll attack pretty much anything that moves, sometimes even including the female elephants they’re competing for. Moose and buck deer in rut have nothing on a crazed bull elephant.
Alternately, sometimes elephants that are used in domesticated situations, such as performing animals, work animals or ceremonial/riding animals will simply “snap” and lash out. While not as implacable as a bull in musth, any angry elephant is still incredibly dangerous, and such animals regularly kill people as they rampage through the area. The actual cause of such episodes is not really understood, but may derive from stress.
Drunk elephants are completely different. They’re more like a belligerent drunk human, only scaled up to the size and strength of an elephant. They throw things, make a lot of noise, stumble into things (often knocking down whatever they hit), and will take a swing at anyone who gets near, but due to intoxication are not capable of the concentrated, deliberate mayhem that a sober elephant can manage.
I know, but Salamander’s stance carries a lot of echoes of that movement.
How?
The high-handed morality, the religious overtones, and the implicit insistence that alcohol can only be detrimental.
She didn’t say alcohol should be banned. She said it was irresponsible and bad to give alcohol to an animal you are supposed to be taking care of. Alcohol is more dangerous to animals than humans. Yes, some animals like moose and bird get occasionally get drunk in the wild. Animals also beach themselves, jump off cliffs, and do all kinds of things not in their best interest. If you are keeping an animal as a pet, you prevent them from doing these things.
I don’t see the first two, but I’d be curios if you have examples of animals that had positive experiences with alcohol.
Oh you you might be right....thanks for posting the fist one....I liked it...
Have a Nice Day salamander ....
How did someone of your obvious “caliber” pick such a lowly diminutive monicker ?
Are you self injurious?
I can help...Ive had training....ahhhh never mind.... it will have to wait for mornin.....we will see how you are doing in the morning ok?...right then....double + good.
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