Posted on 02/26/2014 7:01:29 AM PST by Rusty0604
Depends if you want them killed or just robbed by the popo.
Is that your best come-back? You ought to be embarrassed. FYI — I supported Zimmerman on the facts.
Wow — I just watched that video.
The 5 cops sit on him for a few minutes the very act of which can cause asphyxiation.
Then after he is handcuffed they still sit on him.
Then they turn him over and sit him up and he is not breathing and yet none of those officers were concerned enough to check on him.
Had they administered any form of CPR at that point he might still be alive.
These cops need to pay —
He’s male. He’s presumed the aggressor.
When I fight authority
authority always wins.
Until lawsuits by citizens are paid from PD coffers and not just cities (who in turn just raise taxes on taxpayers), nothing will change.
If the people committing the wrongdoing are not paying a personal price for it, nothing changes.
From an academic standpoint, I don't know if that trait can be trained out of people. From a real world standpoint, something needs to change to make it easier for departments to get rid of officers like that. Maybe a longer probation period.
Other factors can affect police performance, as well. Las Vegas lost an officer in the line of duty a few years ago and over the next year the number of officer shootings increased substantially. Not saying that those officers declared open season on gang bangers, but something was going on.
Yep --
Oh, her “crime” was that her name was remotely close to A MAN'S NAME who had a warrant out for his arrest. Her first name is Dawn and the warrant was for a “Don”. The last names both began with a “C” but were not the same, not even the same amount of syllables. WTF???? 3 cops — I'm sure she would have been put down the same as this guy if she didn't immediately close the door. Power hungry SOB’s.
It's not the winning that is the problem here.
It's the killing under the cover of authority.
How do you, I or anyone else on this thread know what happened, beyond what was reported? We don't, it is that simple.
Yes, he might have been rude. I don't recall any law against rudeness, as socially distasteful as it might be. Maybe he just objected to the manner in which his wife and/or daughter were being questioned? Maybe he voiced displeasure at being accused of "child abuse" when, in fact, he did nothing? We can't know at this stage, but there's a lot of doubt. Maybe being ultra polite would have helped, maybe not. I do agree that it is better to try that type of response first, as you can't act the part of a jerk and then suddenly expect anyone (cop or not) to believe that you are sincere if you change your tactics.a
Meanwhile, it seems more and more like if you don't get on your hands and knees and gently kiss the shoes of the local PD (after politely asking permission, of course), the you're accused of being "uncooperative" or "resisting arrest" or "using force against an officer" or similar such BS. I, for one, have lost most of my respect for the police in this country (esp. the metro variety), despite having grown up in a "law and order" household. Why? Well, it isn't because most cops are bad like these murdering jackasses - they aren't, and quite to the contrary they are mostly good eggs. It is because they remain silent at best, or automatically close ranks behind wrongdoers at worst, regardless of the merits of a particular case. That is unacceptable, and leads me to be very suspicious of their motives - especially since I am a gun owner. They appear to no longer be here to help you.
In short, we've gone from a world of "Adam 12" type cops to one in which they all seem to be wearing body armor, pointing full auto weapons in your face and acting like everyone not wearing their uniform is an immediate threat to their lives. WTF, over?!
Pressing a person to death was a form of torture used in the Dark Ages. It looks like the Dark Ages are back.
Murder, in the first degree, for all of them.
It is sad to say this will never happen. The police are the front line in extra tax collections and thus have full reign to do whatever they need to extricate every last penny from the once-free citizens of this country. The extra murders and violence allowed them are to make sure we become a compliant mass that will obey everything the Government tells us to do and to ensure we stop complaining about Government workers pay and benefits while we starve.
We may not become North Korea but we surly are on our way towards the mass murders and starvation of the old Soviet Union, unless we take our Founding Fathers and the Second Amendment seriously.
No, you assumed the wrong party was being served and protected.
“To serve and protect” never mentions private citizens.
It’s increasingly clear that the Interests and Revenue of the State are in view.
Ever notice how the victim is looked upon as being “in the wrong”* if she or he does anything to “antagonize” a rapist or a police officer?
*according to “conventional wisdom”
likewise I would be embarrassed by your comeback. Clearly you are biased against the police and assume they are in the wrong.
Maybe there’s a correlation between rapists and feral cops who both use the phrase, ‘stop resisting’ as an excuse to beat their victims. Someone should do a study on what triggers the violence in these situations.
Rodriquez fought the law and the law won. I guess he never heard of Sun Tzu. The law of the jungle for thousands of years dictates that stupidity can be fatal. Don't start fights you cannot win...
That is my point - if they "beat" the guy as the headline says, then 2nd degree murder is appropriate. If they physically restrained him and he died from a bad heart its something else.
Can you tell exactly what happened from the information provided here? I can't.
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