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Mozilla clarifies, defends Firefox ad position
ZD Net ^ | 14 February 2014 | Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Posted on 02/17/2014 4:12:46 AM PST by ShadowAce

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To: ShadowAce

I use Firefox. I hate the new ads and was wondering if my popup blocker had failed. Glad for the clarification.

I hate hate hate the ads and do not “understand” and will likely get a Macbook because I want to be virus free which is why I use Mozilla instead of Internet Explorer. I want to be ad free too.

So this idiot broad has killed the goose that lays the golden eggs and Firefox is done.


21 posted on 02/17/2014 5:50:56 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: TomGuy

I had to update the newest version of Youtube on my droid last night.

Screwgle really messed that up. It lasted all of 5 minutes.
What a piece of crap. More tracking crap than any app. I have ever seen.


22 posted on 02/17/2014 6:04:05 AM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: Dr. Sivana
...no ads FOREVER...

You were probably an early adopter of cable, too. ;->

23 posted on 02/17/2014 6:10:13 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

We should all get everything for free, right?


24 posted on 02/17/2014 6:14:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: TomGuy; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Many of these companies are doing the same thing they did to TV -- cramming them with commercials.

The same with talk radio. Around 25 minutes of ads and "news" per hour. It's aggravating.

25 posted on 02/17/2014 6:16:20 AM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: raybbr

It’s why I don’t listen to radio, or have subscription TV anymore.


26 posted on 02/17/2014 6:17:23 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: SunkenCiv
We should all get everything for free, right?

If the user is the product (and we have been for quite some time), then yes--we should get it for free.

27 posted on 02/17/2014 6:18:21 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
> As I mentioned above, Midori is cross-platform, but I do not know about its capabilities.

I first saw Midori on my RaspberryPi. Cool browser. Unfortunately, on Midori's download page:

Warning!

You appear to be using Mac OS X, and this application is not compatible with that system.

Continue at your peril.

"Peril" is not what I need in my browser... not even a little peril (Holy Grail).

NOTE: I believe in compensating folks for the work they do. I don't mind ads that merely pay for the service provided. I don't want everything for free "just because everything should be free".

But I do NOT want the presence of "sponsors" to have the same effect they had on TV, which is to stifle content by censorship. That's the danger I avoid.

28 posted on 02/17/2014 6:18:53 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: VRWCarea51

I am following the same path I did with XP several years ago — I quit upgrading most software, including browsers and Windows.

About 6 months ago, it seemed that every software upgrade created a conflict with some other software program.

Windows 7
Java
Adobe PDF
Adobe Flash
Firefox
IE 10 [MS auto-updated from 9 to 10. 10 caused some add-ons to quit working. I had to drop back to IE9 just to keep things working]

Every time I see ‘upgrade/update’ for software, I cringe. More times than not, I have had to do a system restore to a previous time just to clear out the new conflicts.

It wasn’t broke, so they fixed that.


29 posted on 02/17/2014 6:23:50 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: ShadowAce; SunkenCiv
>> We should all get everything for free, right?

> If the user is the product (and we have been for quite some time), then yes--we should get it for free.

The way I figure, I donate real money to Wikipedia (which has no ads), but I don't donate real money to Firefox, because they are supported almost entirely by Google, and Google gets a TON of revenue from the ads that appear all over the freakin' place in my browsers.

If Firefox starts with the ads, I feel like I'm being "charged" twice. I guess I'd have to start using AdBlock or something, but I'm never entirely sure what blockers do that I might not want. FlashBlock being the one exception to that -- unwanted Flash is an abomination.

30 posted on 02/17/2014 6:23:58 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: raybbr

I have many TV programs that do not have ads.

In the 1970s, TV programs had typically 48 minutes of content.

Now, TV programs have between 38 and 42 minutes of content.

Half-hour TV programs have comparable reductions in content.

Broadcasters cut out parts of the older programs to fit them into the new lengths. In so doing, they cut out some content that is essential to the program.


31 posted on 02/17/2014 6:32:43 AM PST by TomGuy
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But over the years many people have come to expect and want their software to do things on their behalf ..

Similarly, over the years, many people have come to expect someone to wipe their butt, too.

Those eager to accomodate them are currently serving 2-4-6 year terms, depending on their level of expertise.

Hence our national toilet circling race.


In other news .. rather embarrassingly, I was unaware of this factoid:

Today Mozilla gets almost all of its funding from Google

Anyone have a clue as to whether the other browsers that use FF code under the hood are similarly beholden to Leviathan Jr ?

Frankly, this having to look for alternative software and/or updates every 15 minutes is gettin' pretty f'n old.

32 posted on 02/17/2014 6:56:12 AM PST by tomkat
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To: dayglored

I’ve found safari is good in the first two, though I haven’t used linux so can’t speak to that.


33 posted on 02/17/2014 7:11:58 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: dayglored
I wouldn't get on the net anymore without AdBlock+.

If I need a product, I'll do the research to find what best suits.

Otherwise, I despise advertising - 99% of which is absolutely moronic.

If that makes me a 'freeloader' in the minds of some, oh well.

34 posted on 02/17/2014 7:20:55 AM PST by tomkat
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To: TomGuy
Broadcasters cut out parts of the older programs to fit them into the new lengths. In so doing, they cut out some content that is essential to the program.

I happened to notice on the Directv guide this morning, Brady Bunch has a marathon on TVLand and each episode runs 45 minutes.

35 posted on 02/17/2014 7:30:07 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: ShadowAce

speaking for myself, when that annoying hockey penguin became unable to turn off, and i kept getting those annoying ads. i switched to chrome.
firefox needs me more than i need firefox.


36 posted on 02/17/2014 7:49:04 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle
... when that annoying hockey penguin became unable to turn off...

I run AdBlock Plus and NoScript, so I don't know anything about that. I've never seen anything like that.

37 posted on 02/17/2014 7:52:29 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
But over the years many people have come to expect and want their software to do things on their behalf, to take note of what one has done before and do something useful with it."

Uh, no we don't. The only thing I want a browser to do is browse. Possibly remember passwords.

38 posted on 02/17/2014 7:57:34 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Exactly.


39 posted on 02/17/2014 7:59:17 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce; Revolting cat!; GeronL

Wait until the ads are bought in block purchase by Obamacare (using your own tax dollars), the DNC, MoveOn.org (they bought a login screen, must view ad on Myspace blaming Booosh for Katrina than ran over 1 week), et al.

I’ve tuned out of tv, I don’t see such propaganda. could you imagine such banners appearing at the top of your browser all the time?


40 posted on 02/17/2014 8:10:55 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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