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1 posted on 01/24/2014 8:00:53 AM PST by rockrr
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Oh yes the War Between the States

the War of Northern Aggression..

the South will rise again...


2 posted on 01/24/2014 8:03:36 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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Baxley is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans

Baxley, the Republican, is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans who is opposing a monument to Union soldiers, who mostly were all Republicans. My Pennsylvania, Republican, Union Civil War veteran ancestors would be spinning in their graves.

3 posted on 01/24/2014 8:08:57 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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LOL.

Maybe they didn’t get the memo that the North won and the South lost.


4 posted on 01/24/2014 8:11:06 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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7 posted on 01/24/2014 8:17:41 AM PST by stormer
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I like how lefties use name calling. Let’s see:

“Rep. Dennis Baxley, R-Foghorn Leghorn”, “poppycock wrapped in balderdash enshrouded in piffle”, “Welcome To Gooberville.”, “band of bumpkins”.

I’m sure Mr. Ruth has a point, but I guess he’s too lazy to actually have a discussion, and prefers name calling.

Also from the article: “The Civil War wasn’t about honor. It wasn’t about tradition. It wasn’t about some obtuse romantic notion of strolling under the kudzu.”

Hey Dan, you Goobervill Bumpkin, what kind of Piffle is that? Kudzu wasn’t even introduced to this country until a decade AFTER the civil war.


8 posted on 01/24/2014 8:19:43 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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Daniel Ruth is kind of a confused socialist/national socialist radical leftist, defender of savage criminals, hater of everything southern, which is no surprise since before he was canned, he was a Chicagoan and worked for the Sun-Times. The Pulitzer committee, true to form, frequently mails him his prizes.

He was hired by the Tampa Bay Times by a woman described as a “Mussolini” type.


10 posted on 01/24/2014 8:19:59 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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Some 2,000 Union troops died in the conflict, while 1,000 Confederate soldiers also perished in an engagement that did not substantially alter the course of the Civil War.

Those were total casualties, not deaths. Astonishing how many morons do not comprehend that there is a difference.

11 posted on 01/24/2014 8:20:39 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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And if you believe that poppycock wrapped in balderdash enshrouded in piffle, you probably also buy into the notion the nearly 4 million people owned as chattel by their slave owners at the start of the Civil War happily wiled away their hours, gleefully toting those barges and lifting those bails with their only care in the world centered around how to invest their 401k plans.

The writer is a bit confused. The bail doesn't come until after you get drunk.
13 posted on 01/24/2014 8:20:53 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (The only thing that can save us is if Kerry wins the Nobel prize and leaves us alone.--Moshe Yaalon)
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The article is noteworthy in two respects:

1. Its written specifically to incite and belittle.
2. The writer bears an uncanny resemblance to the head orangutan in the original Planet of the Ape movie.

On the merits of the underlying issue, I can't see a problem with monument to the Union dead, although I get the strong sense that this newspaper hack considers the Confederates to be equivalent to SS. What personally motivated Confederate soldiers was clearly not slavery (very few owned slaves and their letters indicated that they thought little about the issue), although it is hard to imagine the war developing without the underlying issue of slavery.

16 posted on 01/24/2014 8:26:15 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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the largest and deadliest engagement in Florida during the "wowrah.

I do believe that's spelled "wowahr."

17 posted on 01/24/2014 8:27:29 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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There is a monument to Henry Wirz, commander of the Confederate prison camp for Union soldiers in Andersonville, GA in the town square.


19 posted on 01/24/2014 8:33:25 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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in an engagement that did not substantially alter the course of the Civil War

Lost interest right there.

There were about 10,000 "engagements" during the war, of which less than 100 were classified as battles. Of all those battles probably 1/3 of them "substantially" altered the outcome of the war.

Virtually none of the battles fought after Gettysburg were going to turn the tide for the South. The writing was on the wall. Lee Read it, Grant knew it.

20 posted on 01/24/2014 8:34:45 AM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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Well, would not northerners be upset if someone tried to erect a monument to confederate soldiers somewhere in the north? Look at how they feel about the Confederate flag or celebrating Lee’s birthday.


22 posted on 01/24/2014 8:41:42 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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...poppycock wrapped in balderdash enshrouded in piffle...

You have to admit that's pretty funny. He could be describing Obama's State of the Union address.

43 posted on 01/24/2014 9:52:25 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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Northerners in the Confederate Cemeteries in Illinois and Ohio will not allow the CBF to be flown over the graves of the Confederate soldiers. Where is the outrage?


44 posted on 01/24/2014 9:53:06 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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Meaker

Call home.


95 posted on 01/24/2014 2:21:13 PM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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Clint Eastwood and I are SCV


96 posted on 01/24/2014 2:21:57 PM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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bkmk


128 posted on 01/25/2014 12:28:26 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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>> Sons of Confederate Veterans, which is upset about a proposal to erect a monument to Union soldiers who died in the Battle of Olustee

The South should not be obligated to honor the Union soldiers who died there.


154 posted on 01/26/2014 3:42:15 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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I hate to point out to the author a few facts that I am sure their limited knowledge of this time in american history is unaware, but I feel I must, since the ignorance is so deep that they believe the civil war was purely about nothing more than slavery.

2 States, West Virginia, and Maryland were both slave states and part of the Union, in fact author, West Virginia succeeded from Virginia purely because it did not want to succeed from the union... However upon its succession it did not abolish slavery within its borders.

African Americans fought and died on both sides of this conflict.

The overwhelming majority of southerners never did nor ever would own a slave.. Yes slavery was an abomination against humanity, but the idea that poor appalachian boys from hollers of Tennessee were willingly dying just to keep the blacks in their place is nonsense.

The Emancipation Proclamation, did not free one slave living in Maryland or WV or any other state in the Union. It was a political move that ensured Europe, who was contemplating entering the war on the side of the south would not get involved... very shrewed political move, but a political one none the less.

To dumb down the 70 year run up to the civil war as simply over slavery is just as if not more ignorant that those you attempt to mock. Do you know what the Nullifier movement was? How about the tariff of abominations? Or any of the other factors that played an ever building stress between the industrializing north and the agrarian south?

Now, to mock others ignorance, when yours is on display to see hopefully will make you go do some homework before you open your trap again.

As to the issue at hand, I don’t care if they erect a monument, put one up for the dead of both sides, because in spite of the dumbing down by fools like this author, this conflict still was the most deadly conflict in US History in terms of casualties by far... And whether you agree with one side or the other, they all need to be remembered because in spite of you and yours attempt to white wash this as a simple black and white issue (see what I did there?) It was far more complex and many a good man gave their “last full measure of devotion” on both sides. (See what I did there too?)


193 posted on 01/31/2014 12:58:00 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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