the war’s over, you lost, get over it.It's not over.
We're just experiencing a pregnant pause. 
Posted on 01/24/2014 8:00:53 AM PST by rockrr
It seems fitting that the de facto anthem of the Confederacy during the Civil War, which some people might still be shocked to learn the North won, turned out to be "Dixie."
After all, since Gen. Robert E. Lee surrendered at Appomattox there's been no shortage of looking away, looking away at the reality of history when it comes to the Civil War.
Nowhere is that full flower of denial more apparent than among the followers of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, which is upset about a proposal to erect a monument to Union soldiers who died in the Battle of Olustee, regarded by historians as the largest and deadliest engagement in Florida during the "wowrah." Related News/Archive
Next month marks the 150th anniversary of the Battle of Olustee, about 45 miles west of Jacksonville. Some 2,000 Union troops died in the conflict, while 1,000 Confederate soldiers also perished in an engagement that did not substantially alter the course of the Civil War.
The 3-acre Olustee Battlefield Historic State Park includes three monuments honoring the Confederate troops who fought and died in the encounter. But when the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War pushed for a memorial on the site to pay homage to the sacrifices of their forbearers, hostilities ensued. So did illiterate silliness.
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No. The Olustee battlefield park, which is run by the state of Florida, has three monuments to Confederate soldiers on the grounds. The Sons of Union Veterans wants to place a monument to Union soldiers and the Sons of Confederate Veterans is opposed to it being placed in the same area as the Confederate monuments.
Well I guess not...but I don’t think that’s what the author meant. Instead, I think the author is of the belief that Kudzu has always been a fixture in the south...I picked up on it, just because its a signal that he probably knows a lot of other things about the south...but really doesn’t.
You have to admit that's pretty funny. He could be describing Obama's State of the Union address.
Northerners in the Confederate Cemeteries in Illinois and Ohio will not allow the CBF to be flown over the graves of the Confederate soldiers. Where is the outrage?
You realize there were thousands of slave owning blacks. Over 3,000 blacks in New Orleans alone who were slave owners. There were black slave breeders too.
Yep...We in the south lost....Yep....Look at:
Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Boston, New York, Philadelphia...
Yep...We lost....*ROFL*
There’s tons of them down here Horry County South Carolina.
I’ve been reminded several times over the years that the cornfederates were Americans, too. Isn’t a United States flag sufficient? It is for the rest of us.
the war’s over, you lost, get over it.It's not over.
We're just experiencing a pregnant pause.
What you have is a link to a knuggle-dragger's best groping, pawing attempt to seize upon statistical data cloaked behind the impenetrable veil of basic illiteracy. The information is supposedly extracted from census records, but the problems are; one, there is no such thing as familial slave ownership (as evidenced by probate and inheritance records in which slaves are treated in the same fashion as the usual sort of individual property) and no such thing as a "slave-owning family" to be counted; two, it was not the purpose of the census to ascertain who owned whom but rather, for the purpose of proportioning representation, to determine how many whites (counted as a whole person) and blacks (counted as three-fifths a person) resided at an address; three, the census was not conducted on a family-to-family basis, but rather door-to-door.
According to the author of the cited material, a collection of white tenant farmers, if they happen, according to the arrangement of their landlord, to cohabitate and having been surveyed by census-taker, not only have all been drafted into a family unit, but have all become the joint owners of any blacks their employer may have quartered among them. I would suppose that this misinterpretation of raw data was deliberate, if I were generous enough to credit the writer for having sufficient intelligence to construct a purposeful deception.
By the way, the UVA database referenced by the cited website actually gives the free population of Mississippi in 1860 as 354,674, and the number of slave-owners as 30,943, which would support a claim that nearly 9% of the free population held slaves. For South Carolina, it's 301,302 to 26,701 for just about 9%, again.
A 150 year pregnancy? Ouch.
The union won, freedom and liberty lost.
“Yankees largely are an overwrought, fuming bunch of people”
Especially from NY. They will just tell you ad nauseum how great NY and NYC is but you couldn’t get them to move back up there with a million dollar bribe. Its schizoid. LOL!
There are presently at least a couple of monuments at Olustee for the Confederates. I’ve seen them. Looks like they’ve been there quite a while.
From what I can tell, a different group has applied for permission to erect a similar monument to the Union soldiers who fought and died there. Which is being resisted by, IMO, idiot Floridians, some of them apparently politicians.
How long will that pause continue?
YW
“Yankees largely are an overwrought, fuming bunch of people.”
That’s the pot calling the kettle. I find you rebs to be a very thin skinned bunch. (Liberals are also quite thin-skinned).
Nope. The man has his critics, and they are not soft spoken about him.
Sherm I’ve been to Olustee battlefield several times and I can tell you there is a beautiful spot under a large Oak tree where most Floridians would be happy to construct a statue of General Grant, his wife and a few of her slaves. Would not want to leave anybody out. :-)
Is it a deal?
“I find you rebs to be a very thin skinned bunch”
Is it because our motto is “Keep the South green put a yankee on a bus”? :-)
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