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1 posted on 01/22/2014 8:25:30 AM PST by C19fan
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ROLF , jokes on you


2 posted on 01/22/2014 8:26:55 AM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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“. . .in practice the Sukhoi-made stealth jet is also too expensive, poorly engineered and powered by old and unreliable engines.”

In other words, normal-normal for Russian aircraft of any make or design.


3 posted on 01/22/2014 8:27:20 AM PST by Hulka
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The Indians will end up just designing and building their own.


6 posted on 01/22/2014 8:29:00 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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7 posted on 01/22/2014 8:32:24 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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So, who do the Indians call for tech support?


8 posted on 01/22/2014 8:33:00 AM PST by red-dawg
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Just imagine what the Mahindra knock-off is going to look like.


11 posted on 01/22/2014 8:38:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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All the same, Business Standard speculates that the Indian complaints could be somewhat politically motivated, as New Delhi is also planning to buy 126 new Rafale fighters from France for an eye-watering total price of $18 billion. Scrapping the T-50 could help India pay for the French jets.

Maybe the Indian brass are tired of buying Russian junk just to keep the special (India-Russia) relationship going. Holding weapons procurement hostage to foreign policy considerations can be painful if the gap in reliability/capability is too great.

12 posted on 01/22/2014 8:39:19 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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“The Indians’ complaints illustrate the yawning gulf between stealth warplane design and the actual production of radar-evading jets.”

This one had me totally baffled until I read:

“In other words, it’s one thing to sketch an advanced warplane on paper. It’s quite another to build one and get it to work.”


13 posted on 01/22/2014 8:52:57 AM PST by golux
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Sounds like the Russians sold them the “monkey” version.

Well, they got a great air-frame. Just need to replace the avionics and engines and they’ll have a great plane.


18 posted on 01/22/2014 9:03:41 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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I seem to remember the F-22 having oscilation (design) problems during testing.


24 posted on 01/22/2014 9:16:54 AM PST by Mashood
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I wonder what the Clintons got for those blueprints.

29 posted on 01/22/2014 9:48:05 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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it takes years to get out of that mindset

EVERYTHING in Russia used to be made “good enough for government work”, which, contrary to Al Gore's belief, is NOT an indication of high quality.

[I wish I knew who told AlGore the phrase “good enough for government work” meant ‘high quality’ in the first place- that person was probably laughing his ass off when AlGore used that phrase in a speech]

"Good enough for government work" is a humorous expression that used to be used in factories to indicate any old crap could be shipped off to government and you will still get paid. One place I know used to take the scrapped parts and put them in the 'government pile'.

30 posted on 01/22/2014 9:51:34 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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Lol

Choices choices

a Ruskie fighter

Or a Mahindra tractor

Answer....neither

I will take me a crate of them there AK47S and a hunting license Mr Secretary

Or some of their babes

Or furs

Or oil

Diamonds

Wild Boar

Hey Russia has stuff of value...


33 posted on 01/22/2014 10:27:25 AM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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37 posted on 01/22/2014 12:06:57 PM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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IMHO, this plane is still a prototype and right now I think Indians are starting it to shake down discounts.
Their main concerns is all about engines which are still in design phase and aren’t even behind shedule.
6 billion is not too much for a technology like that. If I were Sukhoi I could have been seek partners elsewhere, including banks and own government.


40 posted on 01/22/2014 5:27:07 PM PST by cunning_fish
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They cant hate Russian Stealth plane. They dont have it yet. So...


41 posted on 01/23/2014 4:52:45 PM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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