Posted on 01/18/2014 10:11:54 PM PST by Morgana
Avery, who has received mental health counseling, moved twice in recent years from Western Maryland to Ohio and then to Montgomery, according to a minister whose church she attended. A relative said she had separated from her husband. Writings on her Facebook page suggest that she believes in God and fears Satan.
People are being deceived left and right every day and dont care to realize it, she wrote. They think its safe and everythings a game when this world is owned by satan himself who wants to dumb us down to think theres no consequences for what we do.
At the time, she was living in Hagerstown, Md., said Pastor Dan Thornton of Maranatha Brethren Church there. He met Avery through a program that provided groceries, haircuts, dental care and other services to families. Members of the church gave Avery and her family rides to church and bought furniture for them.
The family was forced to leave its apartment and was going to leave behind the furniture, Thornton said. But he and others retrieved the furniture, sold it at a garage sale and gave the money to Averys family. He said she projected confidence but suffered from mental illness. Church members regularly gave her rides to mental health counseling sessions, he said.
Sometimes, she seemed to be in a low valley, said Sue Thornton, Dan Thorntons wife.
Jeeze, ya think Sue?
http://www.maranathagbc.net/About-Us.html
I dont think the Brethren Church endorses the exorcism of children through stabbing. It sounds to me as if she was seriously mentally ill but channeled and mixed up her religious beliefs with her mental illness and fears about the devil and who knows what else. Many people, including mental health professionals and members of her church and her husband and family probably knew just how mentally ill and potentially dangerous she was but she was still allowed to keep caring for her four young children; well now there is only two and they will be in CPSs care once they get out of the hospital. Sad.
Before Susan Smith was Diane Downs — she shot her 3 kids in a car late at night and blamed it on a carjacker. One girl was killed, the son was paralyzed and the other girl was in very bad shape but did recover and testified against her mother in court. The 2 surviving children ended up being adopted by one of the prosecutors in the case.
28 with four kids, names like that, I have no need to see a picture. It has to be one of holder’s people.
It was just too sick to believe. And it seems like the stories keep getting worse over time.
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Unfortunately, the power of the Evil One is being allowed to expand in our time.
Maryland “Freak State” PING!
I’m sure she’ll find a good woman in prison.
It's just determined to be very late term abortion.
Otherwise the blame is entirely hers. She was not crazy in the sense she didn't know what she was doing. She was evil crazy. She killed the kids for one reason, to hurt him.
She planned it. She called him to let him know what she had done.
Evil bitch.
Don't pin this on her blackness.
Sad. A Swedish Bikini Team member?
“If you mean he did something to get her upset with him then I agree.”
No, I don’t mean that at all.
I meant he knew his wife was mentally ill. Her shrink had told him: do not leave her alone with the children. He and his mother were tag-teaming it so someone other than Andrea would always be there.
But that day he left her alone.
Aside from anything else, he did that, and then his children were dead.
Rusty Yates is not a blameless victim, he’s a very irresponsible person, criminally negligent in my non-professional opinion.
Horrible. May our Lord watch over the surviving children.
Re your comment:
Before any of you go getting wild and ballistic here about what Dan and Sue Thornton said about this incident....
^^^
Perhaps you meant to address your remark to someone else, as all I said was:
Horrible. May our Lord watch over the surviving children.
Not that it really matters here, but the Brethern are very liberal. All that feel-good stuff about diversity and garbage like that. Very nice, but unwilling to call sin what it is and more worried about including various colors, if not individuals.
I think you meant to reply to me. First of all I wasnt going wild and ballistic about what Dan and Sue Thornton said. I was only commenting to what Sue Thorton said when she said Sometimes, she seemed to be in a low valley. I wasnt knocking what she said but only commenting on the fact that she was probably stating the obvious.
Dan was interviewed, and the press wanted to have him give a sound bite about exorcism but he didn't think it would be a fair treatment of the subject.
Since you know him, Id be interest on what he would consider to be fair treatment of the subject. I wasnt under the impression that the Brethren Church was all that into the casting out of demons or do it yourself exorcisms. But evidently after she left Hagerstown and the Thorntons church some two years ago, Zakieya Avery started attending a church in German town, Exousia Ministries that allegedly did and thats where she met Monifa Sanford but they both left that church a while later to become self described Demon Assassins.
What the media should be going after is the mental health clinic and the possible psych drugs they were on.
I agree and if you read my post you would have seen where I mentioned the mental health professionals. As far as the possible psych drugs; I am not of the opinion that all psych drugs are always a bad thing or that some people really need them just as they sometimes need hospitalization and lifelong monitoring; that they can and do help some people with serious mental illness. We dont know if she was on them or if she was, if she stopped taking them and if so why, on her own or on whos advice?
The website for Exousia Ministries in Germantown is down but I wonder if they are affiliated with this one (which looks rather like a shady operation to me):
http://exousia-ministries.org/
In any case, a person such as Zakieya Avery who is severely mentally ill and had to be hospitalized at least twice (and one typically doesnt get hospitalized for mental illness unless they are in danger of doing grave harm to themselves or others) is probably also someone who shouldnt be ministered to about and encouraged to seek out and stamp out demons (and Im not implying that thats what Pastor Thornton did, he even mentioned he and members of his church taking her to her mental health appointments).
And the field of psychology and psychiatry certainly isnt without many faults of their own, quacks of their own, but as in this case, severe mental illness combined with a strong belief in the Devil and in Possession and in extreme measure for casting them out if thats what she in part learned at the Germantown church and then took it to her own deluded extremes, is in my opinion a dangerous combination. Telling someone who is truly mentally ill (if thats what happened with the church in Germantown), or for that matter someone with any other serious medical condition, that the cause is the Devil and that they dont need a doctor or medications but just need to exorcise their demons should be held responsible just as should the mental health professionals who did not treat them properly.
Unfortunately it is often the case that professionals are legally constrained over what they can and cannot do; it is very difficult to put someone in a psychiatric hospital, force them to take meds or petition the court to have their children removed from their care.
The two perps. Monifa is on the right.
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