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To: Morgana

There would be zero abortions if the father would own up to his responsibilities and help financially and be a good father. Sounds absurd but it would be so.


2 posted on 01/08/2014 7:28:56 PM PST by HChampagne
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To: HChampagne; Morgana

You’re completely right; I have no idea what is going on with American men that they have become so wishy-washy. I don’t blame feminism or women in the workforce (both have indeed resulted from men shirking their responsibilities) and I don’t see why on holy earth American men are whining about how bad women are when THEY are the ones who are rutting around all the time.


3 posted on 01/08/2014 7:54:29 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: HChampagne
There would be zero abortions if the father would own up to his responsibilities and help financially and be a good father. Sounds absurd but it would be so.

You are absolutely correct - at its root, abortion is just as much mens' fault. The "Woman's Lib" movement has not liberated women, but has liberated men from all responsibility towards women.

4 posted on 01/08/2014 7:58:05 PM PST by PGR88
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To: HChampagne

“There would be zero abortions if the father would own up to his responsibilities and help financially and be a good father. Sounds absurd but it would be so.”

Sounds absurd because it is absurd. How about pregnancies where the woman doesn’t even bother to tell the father that she is pregnant and gets an abortion? How about the ones where the women are such tramps that they don’t even know who the father is? Or when they knowingly sleep around with men who have no financial resources?

Yours is probably the lamest attempt to pawn off responsibility for abortion that I’ve ever read. Anyone with a lick of sense knows that women are the ones making the decision, and men tend to have little, if any, say in the matter.


8 posted on 01/08/2014 8:08:50 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: HChampagne

I don’t know if it would be zero but it would be a very small number. You are exactly right.

And this problem is ages old. It’s not something new.

The only thing that is new in our age is it is now more convenient and socially acceptable to get rid of the child.


9 posted on 01/08/2014 8:09:41 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: HChampagne

We need a return to fathers and brothers with shotguns and mothers who teach their daughters to keep their knickers on. Will there still be unplanned pregnancies? Yup. There always have been. In the past, though, most people generally grew up and faced their responsibilities to the child they made together.


13 posted on 01/08/2014 8:31:14 PM PST by informavoracious (Root for Obamacare and healthcare.gov failure!)
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To: HChampagne

I disagree. Out of wedlock births skyrocketed after the pill and “safe” sex became the agitprop in public schools and girls started sleeping with any Tom, Dick or Harry for popularity.

Boys/Men are weak in that regards—to take what is offered— and resisting sex is harder for them, than for a woman. It is male nature. Respect for women, their offspring, and their bodies disappear when women are not virtuous and require no love and commitment from males they sleep with.

Virtue in males disappears when women don’t expect Virtue in their men.

Women are responsible for their own poor choices. I would never have “slept” with or “dated” seriously men who would have wanted to kill their own genetic offspring-—much less been a woman who would kill her own genetic offspring, even if it meant I had to be living on the street.

I wanted a decent father for any children that I produced so I was picky...as all wise women used to be. There is not much wisdom in today’s young women anymore—nor virtue.

Abortions are a result of no Virtue in women—and that is probably because they weren’t taught Virtue by having a loving mother who was loved by her father. That desperate need for male love and attention that comes from a fatherless home devastates a girls understanding of males/relationships.


16 posted on 01/08/2014 8:56:18 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: HChampagne
There would be zero abortions if the father would own up to his responsibilities and help financially and be a good father. Sounds absurd but it would be so

Horse hockey. The only thing that would produce zero abortions is women not getting them.

Face it, every single abortion in this country is performed because a woman asked for the procedure

23 posted on 01/09/2014 7:53:43 AM PST by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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To: HChampagne; CorporateStepsister; Lorianne
There would be zero abortions if the father would own up to his responsibilities and help financially and be a good father. Sounds absurd but it would be so.

There would be far fewer abortions if women only slept with men who would be willing to marry them. But, for many women, such men are not "exciting" enough.

Who do you think impregnates more ghetto girls: the McDonald's shift manager, or the hot, muscled "gangsta" who just got out of prison and is likely to be back in prison (or dead) before the year is out?

So the girl sleeps with the exciting guy, who also has enough girls interested in him that it's easier for him to dump a girl when she becomes bothersome and move on to the next.

41 posted on 01/09/2014 8:45:37 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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