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NFL Playoffs Week 2 LIVE THREAD
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Posted on 01/07/2014 7:27:17 AM PST by Bender2

NFL Postseason Schedule - 2013


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To: alcatrash
If the Patriots were to win, it would be that no one knocked Belicheck out of the playoffs, rather than Brady. This year Belicheck is writing an entirely new manual on winning in the NFL with spare parts.
21 posted on 01/07/2014 9:18:45 AM PST by bramps
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To: dfwgator

Manziel may be the second coming of Bobby Layne

...Bobby Layne...a blast from the past...one of my favorites, along with John David Crow and Y.A. Tittle..


22 posted on 01/07/2014 9:24:16 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade

The Lions have been trying to find a replacement for Bobby for the past 50+ years.


23 posted on 01/07/2014 9:25:10 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Bender2
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Mobility and stamina cost Denver, San Diego wins 28-20.

Carolina over San Francisco 13-7.

Colts own the middle, Brady's long ball aint what it use to be, Colts 24-7.

Pity any team that has to go through Seattle. Saints lose 21-10.


24 posted on 01/07/2014 9:35:16 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (Life is way too short to suffer fools long.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Can Manziel go both ways and play Safety as well?

Couldn't be any worse than Scandrick.

25 posted on 01/07/2014 9:39:13 AM PST by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Bender2

Three rings...going on four.

26 posted on 01/07/2014 9:47:31 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Bender2

After going one-for-four last week (my only correct pick was the Chargers), I need to do some cogitatin’.


27 posted on 01/07/2014 10:20:13 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: bramps
the list of first-string, pro-bowl starters who are missing (injured) from the Patriots lineup most of this year would make a credible playoff-contending team if they were just healthy.

that Bill and Tom have cobbled together the season that they have this year with, as you so astutely put it, "spare parts," outshines even Peyton's accomplishments this year.

I just don't see anyone out there who can give Bill/Tom a problem they can't solve on their way to cementing the dynastic reality of a Super Bowl monster spanning well over a decade. that they are doing it in the current salary-cap, free-agent, 'don't hit him too hard' era of designed NFL "parity" only makes it all the more spectacular.

28 posted on 01/07/2014 11:38:50 AM PST by alcatrash
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To: IrishBrigade; dfwgator; big'ol_freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; ...
Re: Manziel may be the second coming of Bobby Layne. and ...a blast from the past...one of my favorites, along with John David Crow and Y.A. Tittle..

Gadzooks, does this ever take me back... to the days of truly classic NFL players and coaches of the 1950s through the early 1960s such as Yale Lary, Joe Don Looney, Joe Schmidt--

And... Bobby Layne:

"He was irresistible. He claimed his reputation as a quarterback who could close down a bar on Saturday night and close down the Cleveland Browns the next afternoon was largely a creation of the gossips in the press.

"But listen, even Damon Runyon or Ring Lardner would be mentally taxed to create a Bobby Layne. He really did crash into a streetcar. He really did apply for the Texas Tech football coaching job in 1980, promising to `recruit with $100 bills.`

"He once beat a case involving an early morning crash into a parked car when his attorney persuaded the judge that the arresting officer had taken his Texas twang for drunken slurring.

"When the attorney also claimed that Layne had been the victim of ``a case of laryngitis,` a voice from the back of the court room whispered loudly,`What? A whole case?`

"`Winnin`s the big thing,` he said once, `not records. Look at Fran Tarkenton. He set all those records, but he was throwin` three-yard passes to his backs and getting them killed. How many championship rings does he have?` Layne won by refusing to be beaten, by refusing to let his teammates lose.

"`He was a unique leader,` said Yale Lary, who played on the great Detroit teams with Layne and later joined him in the Hall of Fame. `When he said block, you blocked. And when he said drink, you drank.`"*

And Alex Karras knew a thing or two... about Bobby Layne:

Layne took Karras under his wing, which in the world of Bobby Layne took on an entirely different meaning than from what you and I take that to mean.

Karras re-told the experience in the early-'70s to the late Detroit Free Press sports writer George Puscas, who Karras grew close to while playing for the Lions.

Seems Layne turned Karras into his personal drinking buddy during that 1958 camp.

“I was drunk all the time,” Karras told Puscas. “I have no idea how I made the team because I was hungover at every practice.”

Karras wasn’t a drinker, per se, and definitely not one to partake of hard liquor. But Layne loved his Cutty Sark, which meant Alex had to love it, too.

Layne, according to Karras, only required one, two hours of sleep per night. The two of them would stumble into the dorms at Cranbrook after a long night of partying at a bar in Pontiac, and while Karras struggled to squeeze a little sleep into his body, Layne would head into the shower and sing his favorite song, “Ida Red,” fresh as a daisy.

Karras said that he heard that Layne’s lack of sleep was due to fear of sleeping, because when Bobby was a kid he lost his parents in a car accident and spent an entire night stuck in the overturned car with their dead bodies.

I can see that theory.

But on the practice field, while Karras battled hangovers, Layne was spry, imparting his knowledge of quarterbacking to his receivers and even the coaches.

“Tell that boy to take that route one more step before turning right,” Layne would say in his Texas twang. And, Karras said, when the receiver did it, he found the ball perfectly delivered by Layne.

“The coaches listened, because they knew that nobody knew quarterbacking better than Bobby Layne,” Karras said.
**

How good was Bobby Layne? Consider... these three facts:

1. As starting quarterback of the Lions from 1950-58, he led the team to three NFL championships (Super Bowl victories before there were Super Bowls) in four league championship games — those four appearances coming within six years of play, 1952, ’53, ’54, ’57.

2. Layne played eight full seasons for the Lions, 1950 through 1957; in those eight years the team either played in a championship final or had the division championship decided by their final game of the regular season SIX times. (They fell short of being champions by last-game losses in 1951 and 1956.)

3. He used to park his car on the sidewalks of Detroit.

When Bobby was out on the town, which was often, he had little care for such niceties as parking, which tended to cut down on his happy hour time. A common result of such flagrant lawbreaking was the entrance of Detroit cops who — upon learning the car was Bobby’s — were treated to game tickets, autographs, and stories they could tell their buddies about encountering the legendary Layne.

Joe Schmidt tells a story of bar-hopping with Bobby as a young Lion one night in the ’50s, when Bobby pulled up to the front door of one local establishment. And I mean he pulled UP to the front door. When the cops filed in, demanding to know who had parked on the walkway, Joe feared the worst. His fears were eventually banished when he found himself back in Bobby’s car as it sped up Grand River Avenue, following a police escort, with lights and sirens blazing, running red lights on their way to the next saloon.

Bobby got arrested once in Detroit. Once. And it was the biggest news in town when it happened in August of 1957. Yes, the charge was erratic driving. The idea that some officer had actually busted Bobby was as newsworthy as the charges themselves. With a celebrity of the athletic status of Layne, just as with Bob Probert decades later, it’s a good bet that if a star jock is booked once for an alleged crime, he has been let go with a warning — and an autograph and game ticket promises — about a hundred other times. When Bobby went to trial on his charges — the officer testified that from his voice and behavior the Lions quarterback likely had been drinking — he threw himself on the mercy of the court by explaining that what some thought was a drunken slur was actually the way people from Texas, like ol’ Bobby, spoke the language. NOT GUILTY!

News of Layne’s acquital quickly spread across town, and the Lions celebrated it with a wild drinking party at a tavern that hung a sign saying “Ah ain’t drunk … Ah’m from Texas!”
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Gadzooks, those were the days... weren't they, Don?

Hey, I loved... Bobby Layne!

And not one reporter in those days claimed Don or Bobby... were gay--

* http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1986-12-03/news/8603310358_1_bobby-layne-early-morning-crash-two-minute-offense

** http://bleacherreport.com/articles/228592-bobby-layne-and-alex-karras-unlikely-drinking-buddies-in-58-lions-camp

*** http://blog.detroitathletic.com/2010/08/04/cars-bars-booze-and-the-legend-of-bobby-layne/

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29 posted on 01/07/2014 11:43:47 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

Art Donovan, on sacking Bobby Layne and smelling alcohol on his breath....

“I said, Bobby … you must have had a hell of a night last night. He said, ‘I had a few at halftime.’”


30 posted on 01/07/2014 12:13:27 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Harley Sewell, a guard with the Lions 1953–1962 says, "When I was a rookie, I went with Layne to get a tube of toothpaste, and didn't get back for three days."

Bobby Layne, on a pre-NFL Championship chapel visit, "I didn't come here to shake the SOB's hand. I came to beat his ass."

More from http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2008/09/11/the-incomparable-bobby-layne/:

Layne was also a hell of a pitcher for the Longhorns. This was before the College World Series started, but Texas had one of the nation's best teams, and Layne was its best pitcher. His overall record was 40 - 7, with a 28 - 0 record in the SWC. He had to spend the spring of '45 in military service, but resumed playing in '46. A funny story- he and roommate Rooster Andrews were horsing around and Layne cut his foot on broken glass, requiring stitches. He was scheduled to pitch in College Station the next day, and after showing up lame for a start a few weeks earlier (due to rolling a car), he didn't want to let Bibb Falk know he was hurt. He instructed Andrews (the student manager) to bring him beer during the game to hold the pain down during pitching. The Ags could tell he was hurt, and beat a drum at every limping Layne footstep. Layne pitched a no-hitter, and at the conclusion gave the Ags a "gig 'em" with his middle finger.

That story is illustrative for a number of reasons. It shows Layne's great athletic talent, his great tolerance for pain, and his dependency on alcohol as a coping mechanism. I mean, come on- beer as a pain suppressor? Layne, in his career, made friends wherever he went, and few were willing to come out and call him an alcoholic. Andrews, Walker, his teammates from the Lions and Steelers- they all treasured their post-playing road trips and parties with Layne. Yet there were so many stories, so many DWIs.

Undoubtedly, he was a complex figure, blessed and cursed by the gods. He partied a lot, and used his status as quarterback to "lead" his teams into team-building exercises (parties at bars). He was one of those individuals who only needed about three hours of sleep (such people exist; Jerry Jones is one), and he filled his extra hours awake at night with friends and drinking.

31 posted on 01/07/2014 1:54:57 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bigtigermike

I totally agree will all of your points.


32 posted on 01/07/2014 1:58:02 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: Bender2
Ok, I got the Packers over the Punters and the Cowboys over the Eagles...

Oh, wait...grrr

The Patriots over the Colts
The Broncos over the Chargers
The 49ers over the Panthers
The Seahawks over the Saints


33 posted on 01/07/2014 2:23:31 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: big'ol_freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; RockinRight; Army Air Corps; ..
Re: Ok, I got the Packers over the Punters and the Cowboys over the Eagles... Oh, wait...grrr

Gadzooks, big-- That... is brilliant!

We both use our drunken stupors to dream... how it would have gone had our teams won!

Fine, Bend... whatever--

CNN Sports Roundup... Ken Brockmann reporting--

Green Bay Packer Coach Mike McCarthy... give all credit to Arron Rogers' Discount Daaaable Check move for beating the 49ers last Sunday.

Rogers is busy practicing to keep his move perfect... when he leads the Packers against the Panthers in Carolina this Sunday.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is still celebrating... his teams win over the Philadelphia Eagles two weeks ago at AT&T Stadium.

"Wining the East," Jones says, "Helped Tony... get mentally tough enough to beat the Saints last Saturday night.

Jones went on to predict... another win this Saturday at Seattle.

This has been CNN Sports Roundup... Ken Brockmann reporting--

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Such Happy... Dreamss-- Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

34 posted on 01/07/2014 5:24:14 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: dfwgator

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/san-diego-chargers-chance-extend-odd-streak-recent-000908003—nfl.html


35 posted on 01/07/2014 6:48:46 PM PST by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: Bender2
"Thanks Bender for your support. As a token of my appreciation, I bring you this train of Victoria's Secret models just for you."


36 posted on 01/07/2014 8:25:23 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; ...
Re: "Thanks Bender for your support. As a token of my appreciation, I bring you this train of Victoria's Secret models... just for you."

Thanks, Jerry, it is... much appreciated!

Yet, Behati and I... are old Besties from way, way back--

But, Bend-- I thought Behati... my Bestie!

Gadzooks, big-- We are drunken dreaming... she can be both!

Oh... yeah--

37 posted on 01/08/2014 3:43:44 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Patriots will only win the Super Bowl if they CHEAT. So unless they bring out Spygate and start video taping their opponents unauthorized again, they will LOSE.

To most NFL fans, there is an asterisk on those 3 Super Bowls.


38 posted on 01/08/2014 9:00:20 AM PST by skinndogNN
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To: big'ol_freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; RockinRight; Army Air Corps; ..
FYI from http://college-football.si.com/2014/01/08/johnny-manziel-declares-nfl-draft-texas-a-m/:

Report: Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel files paperwork for NFL Draft

The wild and wonderful Johnny Manziel era has come to an end. The redshirt sophomore and 2012 Heisman Trophy winner has submitted paperwork to declare for this year’s NFL draft, NFL.com’s Gil Brandt reports. Manziel is expected to formally announce his decision later on Wednesday.

ESPN’s Darren Rovell reported on Tuesday that Manziel had decided to sign with Select Sports Agency and Maverick Carter, who also reps LeBron James.

Talk amongst yourselves... and get back with your comments while I dream some more-- Zzzzzzzzz

This is CNN Sports Breaking News Game Break... Ken Brockmann reporting--

Super Bowl XLIII is over and Dallas Cowboy Quarterback Johnny Manziel... shows his excitement at winning his fifth straight Super Bowl over the Los Angeles Jaguars

This has been CNN Sports Breaking News Game Break... Ken Brockmann reporting--

Gadzooks! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... Why would I want to wake up? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz--

39 posted on 01/08/2014 1:41:47 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2
Who? Me drunk?
40 posted on 01/08/2014 2:47:35 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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