My father is a retired police officer, and I have known retired sheriffs, active cops, prison guards, etc., and know something of their mentality. They’re more concerned with being falsely accused of something, or giving people opportunity to accuse, since it is very common for people to make false accusations even in the midst of tragedies. I find it truly hard to believe that a cop just went over there and said “We don’t have time for this,’ and shot a person for no reason. It is more likely that the family invented this statement in order to set the stage for suing.
Without more details about the family, actual information about where the guy was shot, and what the police officers have to say in their defense, I would hesitate in condemning our men.
“I would hesitate in condemning our men.”
They may be YOUR men, they are not mine. For that matter, they are not men, they are animals...
I’m going to say again what I’ve said before in some of these situations. If 3 men cannot restrain and unarmed man, or woman, without killing him or her, they do not have proper training or procedures in place.
Irregardless of my last statement you are correct.
We don’t know what really happened.
I do believe the situation would have had to be extreme to justify shooting him. He was just a small guy and there were three officers there. How many does it take? It seems by weight alone they could have subdued him. Unless he had a gun or something.
“I would hesitate to condemn our men” you say? Oh but it is just fine for to you condemn the grieving family with this beauty: “It is more likely the family invented this statement in order to set the stage for suing”. You jackboot cop-suckers are real pieces of work.
Thank you! My Hub is a retired police officer, our son and son-in-law are active police officers in 2 large cities here in Texas. We have a few on this site that broad-brush when it comes to police officers. I too find it hard to believe an officer would willingly shoot a kid that’s down for no reason at all.
mine is too, retired. after 20 years or more many cops get jaded, cynical and calloused. for some it can’t be helped. but i can see a cop uttering this if they think they’re god or if they’re jaded/cynical about yet another out of control, looks like a drug user uncooperative person.
we’ve got cops’shooting pets at no provocation, kicking cats, shooting people who think they’re being home invaded. video of a female cop executing a guy with a smart mouth. it’s totally plausible with today’s law enforcement officers.
You can go right on hesitating....meanwhile in the real world.....in MODERN America, there now exists miraculous devices that are nearly universally present. They are called video recording devices. And on a daily basis these
devices capture irrefutable evidence that routinely demonstrate that it is the thug in BLUE making the false accusation, lying about events and committing perjury.
I wouldn’t go as far as you in defending these cops, but it is certainly reasonable to point that this story is not about what happened, it’s about what the family says happened.
The story may be 100% true, or it may be completely invented. But it is at this point just a story told by a grieving family.
>> I find it truly hard to believe that a cop just went over there and said “We don’t have time for this,’ and shot a person for no reason.
Of course not.
>> It is more likely that the family invented this statement in order to set the stage for suing.
Not necessarily.
I seriously doubt anyone in your family deserves the authority to kill other citizens. But that is also true for 95% of the Country’s inhabitants.
It’s time to triple the pay LEOs get. But it’s also time to eliminate bennies, immunity, and sub-excellent standards.
Anyone licensed to kill must be the most intelligent, most disciplined, most honorable, most Constitutional. The best.
I commend you for being honest about why you often defend lawmen.
That’s fine.....I understand....I wouldn’t turn on my daddy or pappy either
I’m ambivalent....I have had good relationships with cops and have also been severely beaten while cuffed up by two black city of Miami cops later sent to jail for home invasion.
The Barrett brothers...their story may be online....
I know in my heart our political struggles have become politics by other means
I live in fear for what is coming for my boys...I’m old....I’m gonna die anyhow
Where will cops fall...gun grabbers Lon Horiuchi murderers or how many come to our side?
Given ATF and other feds I have no hope there
Locals....geography and race maybe religion too.....will likely matter some
You have to pick sides you didn’t want to have to
Damned sad ain’t it.....and it will be so terrible
I think of that whenever I see amped up cops laden with taxpayer toys and black guns pretending to be recon rangers...like yeah...right.
Color me unimpressed.....why on earth does every burg have some armored attack vehicle and squad machine guns?
I like old school slouch hat wheel gun redneck southern cops like I grew up with mo better
Cops gonna have to decide whether they want to be upholders of the blood our ancestors shed for freedom.....or targets of opportunity....I’m not trying to be ugly....just look how civil conflict plays out.....I’ve seen this over and over personally from Sierra Leone to Haiti to Jamaica to Colombia plus a few others
Police become targets of insurgents.....the latter being.us in this case at some point.
This isn’t your dad’s police force anymore, and this isn’t just happening there, Canada is getting just as bad. They used to go to Depot in Regina for training and learned how to serve and protect, now it’s an us vs them mentality.
I’m sure there’s a few good ones still left but by and large these types are stories are far too common now.
yet with 3 cops - somehow a 90# kid got shot...in his own home - go figger
effin bootlicker
A friend of mine was a cop and his dad has been the sheriff of a certain county for a very long time. His assessment of cops is along these very broad generalizaations:
25% Donut eaters. They would prefer to not have the hassle of even writing you a ticket. When a cop sees you break a traffic law, yet ignores it, you’ve probably run across one of these.
25% Brown shirts. These are the power trip thugs that enter the force because they like the power over other people and the respect it brings. They are the most dangerous. Police forces try to filter out this sort of person, which is why it is only 25%.
25% Former high school jocks. These are the guys that are physically superior to most guys and, since their life revolved around sports, they never acquired any marketable skills so they fall back on what they know - prepared to get physical, if necessary, and probably win. This group often digresses to the group above.
25%: Good guys. Honest to God good guys that sincerely want to make a difference in their community. They join the force with the belief that the cops are the good guys and they are out to keep the peace and make the community a better place.
The sad part is that a lot of the last group eventually either digress into the first or second group or get out of that career path, as my friend did.
But whenever you get pulled over by a cop, it really helps to know you are probably dealing with one of the guys described above, and it behooves you to respond accordingly.
Something we can both agree on.
Here is some “actual information”:
The cop said, “We don’t have time for this.” and then pulled his weapon and shot the kid.
What part of that don’t you understand?
Or, are you choosing to not believe that account because you believe cops are all good guys in difficult situations?
” I find it truly hard
to believe that a cop just went over there
and said “We don’t have time for this,’”
The newspaper ladies in the Dorner hunt, a teen in a club trying to tell a cop he was arresting the wrong guy, a woman checking a noise in her own yard, numerous SWAT incidents.
Cops have shown a consistent tendency to disregard all other lives. This is easily believable. Besides, as one said, you were more than willing to believe the worst of the family. But not the cop. Why? A little biased?
The time for rational debate is long past. We are in emergency mid course correction and reform mode. You want to negotiate with a hungry bear and her cubs, go ahead. Not me.