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1 posted on 12/31/2013 12:35:00 PM PST by publius321
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To: publius321

I would think that fiber to the house would be a better option.

I can’t see the local TV stations getting into the internet provider business.


2 posted on 12/31/2013 12:43:35 PM PST by Elderberry
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Far better than that would be if the electric companies were allowed to provide Internet service over their existing AC lines.

Every house with electricity is already wired to accept it. The only reason the electric companies aren't offering it is because the big-government/big-corporate criminal complex the cable and phone companies lobbied again$t it.

3 posted on 12/31/2013 12:46:47 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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4 posted on 12/31/2013 12:47:42 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: publius321

One TV channel is a few MHz of bandwidth, say 6. If 100,000 people tune in to that station, it still only occupies 6 MHz of bandwidth. But if 100,000 people want to surf the web at TV-signal-class bandwidths, each looking at their own different thing, then the necessary signal bandwidth is 6 MHz * 100,000 = 600 GHz, which is a bit more than is available with present technology. Not to mention that doing this leaves zero space for every other use of the spectrum: other radio and TV broadcasts; commercial land and aviation communication, military, radio, satellite, ham radio, garage door openers, Wifi, bluetooth, and a lot of other things that use the electromagnetic spectrum.


5 posted on 12/31/2013 12:49:04 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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"...someone call for a genius?.......can wait till they show up"

7 posted on 12/31/2013 12:51:12 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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I seem to remember back in the day that commercial AM radio stations (WLW,etc.—the old late night beep beep sounds on the dial) used to offer radio facsimile services piggybacked with their broadcast signal. Internet should work on tv signals but the economics probably do not make sense.


9 posted on 12/31/2013 12:56:07 PM PST by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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To: publius321

There is already something better than what you propose. It is called WiMax. However, it is questionable whether anyone would be able to profit from building the infrastructure necessary to support this technology.


11 posted on 12/31/2013 12:59:07 PM PST by nhoward14
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Just by way of a thought...my ISP is tv network.
The data is sent to them over a cellphone network.
no cables.
Have freeped from the middle of a forest before now, using my home service provider.


12 posted on 12/31/2013 1:01:31 PM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. " If 2013 were a wine, you'd use it to kill weeds.")
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I dunno if you’re looking for something like this; Aereo allows you to recieve High Definition broadcasts of Local channels,(abcnbccbsfox) streaming from the internet to your tv set, or tablet, or Roku. Here, check it out = https://aereo.com/

For favorite programs from cable stations.. Hulu Plus may be the way.. http://www.hulu.com

Internet streaming, in my opinion, is the way to go, MUCH better than paying your hard earned money for bundled service, paying for many channels that no one watches..


13 posted on 12/31/2013 1:06:10 PM PST by Biblical Calvinist (Soli Deo Gloria !)
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To: publius321

Someone was working on a method to do that, the FCC crapped on them because they couldn’t guarantee people wouldn’t download porn and the guys at the FCC are too dumb to understand that using the airwaves for the internet doesn’t put the contents of the internet on the airwaves.


15 posted on 12/31/2013 1:06:49 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: publius321

Given only a 75kHz channel for FH radio, and a 6 MHz channel for television, not really. You’re not the first on who’s had that thought. There wouldn’t be enough throughput.


18 posted on 12/31/2013 1:13:39 PM PST by VideoPaul
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Ping


19 posted on 12/31/2013 1:16:02 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: publius321

Television stations do not have 5 ‘channels.’ They have one 6 MHz channel, which is currently used with a modulation scheme called ATSC that delivers 19.4 Mbps (Megabits per second) of data. That data can be split up any way the television station wishes; as a single High Definition channel, as one slightly lower quality HD channel and one or more standard definition channels, or a bunch of standard definition channels.

The problem in delivering wireless internet service using this ATSC data stream is twofold:

First of all, the television station only has a single 19.4 Mbps data stream that would have to be shared by all of the users simultaneously. That’s not a lot of data if you get 20 people each trying to stream a different movie from Hulu at the same time, let alone 20,000 subscribers.

Secondly, there is currently no back channel, or any way for your computer or other device to talk back to the television station to request a web page, upload photos, etc. That backchannel would have to be over some other system, either a dial-up telephone line or a wireless cell phone service of some sort.

So, no, it isn’t going to happen.

Now, there is a possiblility of a new company purchasing the 6 MHz chunk of bandwidth from the television company, and designing a new service entirely. That is not only possible, it is very likely in the not too distant future.


20 posted on 12/31/2013 1:26:45 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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If the signal actually reached my house reliably, it might work okay for receiving web data — but there’s no way other than dialup for me to tell it what to send. A system like that would work, and in fact that’s how TiVo used to operate in the late 1990s, same goes for pay per view over small dish. Dunno how it works now.


21 posted on 12/31/2013 1:39:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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There are 10 kind of people in the world. Those that know binary, and those that don’t.


28 posted on 12/31/2013 3:27:10 PM PST by Organic Panic
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