Posted on 12/30/2013 4:51:08 PM PST by Kevmo
Brillouin Signs Licensing Deal with Korean Firm Published December 30, 2013 | By jennifer
Brillouin Energy Corporation could begin manufacturing Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR) devices by the end of 2014, the company’s CEO Robert W. George III told Sterling D. Allen of Pure Energy Systems. George also said his company has signed a “multimillion dollar licensing deal” with an unidentified firm in South Korea.
The Korean firm has already paid Brillouin $375,000 in cash as half of the down payment for the rights to manufacture its hot tube boiler technology, George reportedly said. The company is supposed to wire Brillouin another $375,000 within 90 days to cement the deal.
The deal reportedly signed just before Christmas will obligate Brillouin to give the mysterious client a set of plans for the hot tube device. The client would then build and test the devices before deciding what to do with them. George didn’t say what the client plans to do with the devices.
In the past George and the hot tube’s inventor Robert Godes have said their technology could be used to replace coal and other fossil fuel fired boilers in power plants. Godes has also talked about developing smaller devices for use in houses.
Brillouin is one of two companies that has said it will bring LENR devices to market in 2014. Andrea Rossi’s Leonardo Corporation is taking orders for its eCat LENR devices with a delivery date of next year.
Brillouin’s business model is different than Rossi’s, Rossi plans to manufacture the devices and sell them. Brillouin wants to license its technology to manufacturers. Instead of manufacturing, Brillouin will concentrate on research and development efforts for LENR technology. Brillouin is currently testing its devices in conjunction with Dr. Michael McKubre and the SRI International laboratory in California.
Brillouin is currently raising funds to finance the building of a working model of a hot tube boiler. The company also has a promise of $20 million in venture capital from Sunrise Securities Corp. That capital can only be used to retrofit an existing steam power plant for LENR operation. Brillouin will need to develop a working hot tube boiler in order to take advantage of that arrangement.
It looks like 2014 could be the year in which we see the first steps to the commercialization of LENR. Hopefully this news will attract more interest and venture capital to LENR.
The Cold Fusion/LENR Ping List
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles
http://72.52.77.8/vortex-
And for all you skeptics out there....there is NO indication that Brillouin is anything other than legitimate. They have followed the exact same path as many another high-tech firm...venture capital from tech investment groups. Their device have been tested by SRI, one of the most legitimate research organizations in the USA.
THE key point (although this article doesn't have it) is that the Korean firm has spent a full year doing "due diligence" testing of the Brillouin units before putting up the cash.
I hope it is not North Korean
Can you give an estimate of what is the total amount of money that has changed hands for LENR devices on the open market? I mean, not counting R&D funding.
Is this the first sale that’s actually gone to completion? I thought I recall that Mr. Rossi had sold one, or was in negotiations to sell one, to an “unnamed customer.”
Did SPAWAR buy one?
If any have changed hands, it has been an undisclosed amount. I doubt any have at this point.
If you’re in Sweden, you can get a 1MW box for free, supposedly, if you agree to be a demo customer.
There appears to be about 3 or 4 companies gearing up for production in 2014. That’s about 50-60 years ahead of any hot-fusion schedule.
You're so mean.
I don't think the NK's could afford it. Besides, they are too busy playing dynastic games right now.
I am encouraged by this:
Brillouin’s business model is different than Rossi’s, Rossi plans to manufacture the devices and sell them. Brillouin wants to license its technology to manufacturers. Instead of manufacturing, Brillouin will concentrate on research and development efforts for LENR technology. Brillouin is currently testing its devices in conjunction with Dr. Michael McKubre and the SRI International laboratory in California.
I am discouraged by this:
CEO Robert W. George III told Sterling D. Allen of Pure Energy Systems.
Sterling Allen may be passionate about this subject but he is certifiable.
Also, I believe Blacklighpower was at this stage several years ago, they've had 60 million in funding and work with Rowan university to verify their tech. They had two deals with two real power companies but couldn't deliver but they are still trying. Mills has a chemical engineering degree and has a Harvard MD as well, he's no dummy. Maybe he's a victim of confirmation bias but I think that's where Rowan U comes in. I don't count BLP out of the game yet.
I've said this a hundred times, until we know the physics of this thing, it's going to take a lot of experimenting to scale this up to useable levels. That didn't stop Edison who for his many faults and sleazy behavior developed the light bulb using a purely experimental process.
If this works, it will be like first flight or the first man in space. Yes, we have the Internet but in forty years, what game changing tech have we had that compares to those two except for the Space Shuttle which should never have been retired. The day after Challenger I bet all of the astronaut core and myself would have flown one the next day, if it was warmer...
Imagine neutering OPEC and the USA becoming completely energy independent. I don't know if this process can power a car, thermoelectric generators don't generate but less than a thousand watts and imagine having a reactor-turbine power plant although the turbine instead of powering a generator could be hooked up to the wheels like Chrysler did with their turbines and their solution was nothing short of elegant. The driven hot gas wheel of the turbine hooked up to an automatic tranny without a torque converter and they worked well, except for melting the road. But, if this works, we can possibly save our oil for our cars and power the US with these.
All in all, 2014 could be an awesome year for LENR or maybe hot fusion, unfortunately that would be China's hot fusion and they don't have environmentalists to worry about.
Pre-orders, licenses, and promises. Still no working devices.
Which is probably why any circuitry will probably be totally sealed and never patented.
See Elon Musk's comments on patents, rocketry, and China.
"Brillouin’s business model is different than Rossi’s, Rossi plans to manufacture the devices and sell them. Brillouin wants to license its technology to manufacturers. Instead of manufacturing, Brillouin will concentrate on research and development efforts for LENR technology. Brillouin is currently testing its devices in conjunction with Dr. Michael McKubre and the SRI International laboratory in California.
Brillouin's approach has been about as different from Rossi's as it is possible to get. That is part of the reason I think they will have a better product.
"Sterling Allen may be passionate about this subject but he is certifiable."
Hey, even a crazy pig can occasionally find an acorn. The correct response is to wait for confirmation from another source, which, if this is true, WILL be forthcoming.
"I don't count BLP out of the game yet."
I dunno. They've had "almost" as long as the hot fusion boys. If they don't hurry up, they will be "scooped" by LENR, which should deliver far more energy from a smaller package.
"I've said this a hundred times, until we know the physics of this thing, it's going to take a lot of experimenting to scale this up to useable levels."
Unfortunately, the machinations of the "hot physics" boys have slowed the research effort hugely, so researchers are forced to do things many times on an "ad hoc" basis.
"Yes, we have the Internet but in forty years, what game changing tech have we had that compares to those two except for the Space Shuttle which should never have been retired.
Actually, the "Space Shuttle" as it was realized should never have been built. It was a huge kludge that NASA was forced into because of major budget cuts. The original design had both booster and orbiter as recoverable and reusable. "Challenger" was a direct result of all those technical compromises.
"I don't know if this process can power a car, thermoelectric generators don't generate but less than a thousand watts and imagine having a reactor-turbine power plant although the turbine instead of powering a generator could be hooked up to the wheels like Chrysler did with their turbines and their solution was nothing short of elegant. The driven hot gas wheel of the turbine hooked up to an automatic tranny without a torque converter and they worked well, except for melting the road.
The obvious approach is an LENR hybrid. Small turbine run at constant speed charging on-board batteries. Slow startup and/or shutdown not a problem with that arrangement.
"But, if this works, we can possibly save our oil for our cars and power the US with these."
Or better, as raw materials for all the products chemistry can give us.
"All in all, 2014 could be an awesome year for LENR or maybe hot fusion, unfortunately that would be China's hot fusion and they don't have environmentalists to worry about.
I think 2014 will be THE breakthrough year for LENR.
You're right. The Air Force demanded changes and Nasa accommodated them and then the Air Force didn't use the shuttle hardly at all.
I thought the original design didn't use a delta wing, it had air breathing engines for landing. Aerojet submitted SRBs that were one piece instead of the segmented ones that had the problems with joint rotation and were to be manufactured in Florida. Also, the head of Nasa (Fletcher?) at the time had a relationship with Morton Thiokil.
I read that the Air Force said its experience with solid rockets was that there was a 1 in 25 chance of a burn through and Challenger was the 25th flight of the shuttle after its test flights program concluded. There were other things that would have made it much better, too. The book, "Challenger, a Major Malfunction" goes into detail on some of the changes the Air Force demanded not to mention the massive spare parts shortage.
It's hard to believe that before the Challenger disaster, their spare parts situation was so bad that as soon as one shuttle landed, parts like the honeywell designed and IBM built fly by wire computers were cannibalized for the next launch of the shuttle. One great result of the disaster was that they had time to make and stock the spare parts they should have had when it went into production. Hell, they had enough stuff to build another orbiter.
I read a pdf on the space shuttle main engines and it described all the issues around their design and manufacture. One thing that amazed me was that the turbopumps could go from 0 rpm to 400,000 rpms in one second if they ran away and the computers at the time weren't fast enough to deal with it. That's some serious throttle response!
Back to the good stuff. I'm kind of on the fence with BLP, they have the funding, they had the deals with two power companies, they're working with Rowan U but they can't seem to make it work and now it appears that either their tech has changed or their description of it has changed. Filed under to be determined.
Regarding Sterling Allen, he is a kook but that doesn't mean he's wrong on this, it's just that his credibility is the same as Baghdad Bobs.
Do you know if the US is funding any LENR research?
This makes me angry, after MIT used their considerable credibility to undermine cold fusion research to have this is like a slap to the face.
MIT LENR Device in Tupperware container
I'm glad they're on board but what they did to the whole idea of cold fusion put a wet blanket on it and its researchers were likened to alchemy. The worse thing I read is that link you gave me of the sonofusion guy and how the other professor that was paid to try to replicate it was a scumbag and laughed at what he did.
Oh yeah, one more thing. Who was the guy that had the two sphere's in a box and one producing energy and at the end of the conference, he cut both in two and they were hollow?
I was kind of shocked by your statistic that BLP had been funded to a total of $60MM. I can only imagine where we would be if LENR had had that sort of funding from the feds for serious research.
"Do you know if the US is funding any LENR research?
The only "legitimate" (i.e. over the table) funding I know of that is currently ongoing is in NASA. There was a bit in the Navy, but last I heard that was being killed in spite of the excellent research from the SPAWAR folks.
I suspect there are still some "midnight engineering" kind of small efforts being bootlegged.
"This makes me angry, after MIT used their considerable credibility to undermine cold fusion research to have this is like a slap to the face."
No need to be angry. The Nanor is NOT "an MIT device". It is a totally outside development that Peter Hagelstein has helped Micheal(?) Swartz develop. The MIT physics people had zero to do with it....to the point of not even bothering to check out its performance when it ran for several months after the first "MIT" (actually Hagelstein) short course on LENR.
"I'm glad they're on board but what they did to the whole idea of cold fusion put a wet blanket on it and its researchers were likened to alchemy."
The MIT physics department is just as recalcitrant as ever. Nothing has changed.
"The worse thing I read is that link you gave me of the sonofusion guy and how the other professor that was paid to try to replicate it was a scumbag and laughed at what he did.
Oh, there are plenty of equally "dirty-trick" stories regarding the anti-LENR forces stifling of any and all flavors of LENR.
"Oh yeah, one more thing. Who was the guy that had the two sphere's in a box and one producing energy and at the end of the conference, he cut both in two and they were hollow?
Dennis Cravens at the last National Instruments exposition. Though hollow, they were not empty. One had the ingredients for LENR, the other was a blank. There is a good long writeup about it by Cravens "somewhere" that I have read. Also, he has just been issued a patent on something related to LENR (I just saw that either yesterday or today on Vortex-L). Haven't had a chance yet to look it up and see what it is all about.
Dennis Cravens:
1) National Instruments Demo:
http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/NIWeekCravens.pdf
2) LENR (though not called that) patent:
https://www.google.com/patents/US8485791
That was a good read. I’m curious, were there any measurements of gamma rays or neutrons or anything like that detected above background level?
That patent cites Rossi. #US20110005506. Does that mean the patent was granted?
I don't recall seeing mention of any.
"That patent cites Rossi. #US20110005506. Does that mean the patent was granted?"
Possibly not (assuming you mean a Rossi patent). US Patent Law has changed recently, and nowadays, if you apply for a US patent, even if you don't succeed in getting an issued patent, your application is published.
It used to be that an inventor whose patent application was rejected, could request that the application NOT be published so that the information could be kept as trade secrets.
Nowadays, an organization must make the decision "trade secret or patent" before any patent is applied for.
Very interesting developments! Thanks for posting/commenting.
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