Posted on 12/10/2013 12:06:47 PM PST by RC one
California condors were nearly extinct by the 1980s. Thanks to habitat loss, wanton shooting, egg collecting, and the scavenger's propensity for eating animal carcasses tainted by lead bullet fragments, fewer than 30 remained. After decades of captive breeding, about 200 condors now fly free in central California, Utah, Arizona and Mexico. But death by lead poisoning remains a significant threat, preventing condor populations from flourishing without human intervention ("Getting the lead out," HCN, 5/5/07)
Followup On Oct. 11, California became the first state to ban lead ammunition for hunting, expanding a partial lead-ammo restriction in the bird's range. But the controversial rules won't fully go into effect until July 2019. The ban comes as the Los Angeles Zoo treated 21 condors for lead poisoning in October, a record high. Meanwhile, Utah and Arizona are trying to get the lead out with voluntary incentive programs for hunters.
My cousin was born in San Diego, has lived there all his life (60 years+) and loves to hunt and shoot. He’s had enough and is moving out.
Well, I always wondered what they would do if they caught some endangered species chowing down on an endangered plant...
I don’t see a there being much chance of a condor eating lead fragments from a high powered rifle left in a large animal. Frangible ammo used for varmints is another matter as is lead shot in wounded foul/small game. I am pro-second amendment and I’m pro-wildlife conservation and preservation. I posted this article to illustrate the hypocrisy of Barack Obama and the leftists in general. Dead eagles truly piss me off as do hypocrites and liars. Thye number of birds being killed by wind mills numbers in the millions. This is not green by any definition. It’s hypocrisy. It’s political favoritism. It’s sickening and criminal as far as I’m concerned. Furthermore, can you imagine if Bush gave energy companies a pass to kill eagles and condors?
lol here in Michigan also, but we do have the return of the bald eagle. My daughter got a picture of one sitting in a tree at the end of her road. (rural). But Obama has given the wind power wind mills the exemption from killing eagles/hawks and I would suppose the condors. It seems that wenn someone goes to washington, their brain cells keep falling out of the back of their heads
California condors?
What ever happened to “for the children?”
Condors are vastly more important; unfortunately, eagles don’t make the list.
Seems to me most 22LR is copper jacketed. And are you saying that 22s use softer steel than other guns? I've never heard that. Not that it has anything to do with my original post.
My guess is that all the big manufacturers will start putting out non lead rounds in most cartridges including 22LR.
Condors, a big, ugly, carrion-eater.
People are more important than animals.
KYPD
copper washed, not jacketed.
Who is “the criminal element?”
Works for me.
Gun barrels come in all kinds of different hardnesses, as does lead and jacketing material.
Take a standard “copper jacketed” .22 bullet and cut it in two with a pocket knife. You won’t find it to be very difficult to do. Next, try doing the same with a metal jacketed .223. You’ll find its hard to do.
High pressure bullets need to be hard, so that they won’t blow out, low pressure bullets need to be soft, so they will seal.
While the RATS would love to disarm citizens, this bill doesn’t do it. You can still buy lead ammo. You can still shoot lead ammo. You just can’t hunt with lead ammo.
“...My guess is that all the big manufacturers will start putting out non lead rounds in most cartridges including 22LR.”
There goes the bore. Zinc, compressed/sintered iron or copper are not stable in the earth and contaminate ground water much more readily than does lead ammunition. Metals reclamation from range berms is required more often and is much more expensive than running and replacing berms through a lead wash.
It is known to the rest of the country that the residing governance of Kalifornia is peopled by loons and is hazardous to one’s wellbeing.
KYPD
Will this cause a drop in ammo prices?
OK, I get that. But why make a 22 barrel softer? I’m not being argumentative here, I just don’t see any reason to do so, except maybe cost.
Yep, cost.
That was a step toward eliminating it.
Thugs, thieves and robbers. People who ignore laws.
there are plenty of people that I would stand back and allow to be eaten by condors without so much as a thought of intervention. and I mean plenty of them.
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