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Jameis Winston not charged: Legal aftermath, possible next steps
Sports Illustrated ^ | December 5, 2013 | Michael McCann

Posted on 12/05/2013 3:07:28 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike

In a nationally televised press conference on Thursday, State Attorney Willie Meggs announced that Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston will not be charged with sexual assault. While it sounded as if Meggs found the accuser ) to be generally believable, gaps in her memory coupled with the discovery of another man's (apparently the complainant's boyfriend) DNA meant the standard for charging and prosecuting Winston was not met. The case, which dates back to Dec. 7, 2012, is considered closed.

In many ways, Meggs' press conference appeared to be damage control, with Meggs -- an elected official -- insisting the investigation was comprehensive and typical. He did, however, express frustration that witnesses were not interviewed earlier.

Here's a breakdown of where things stand now, and potential legal steps that could still be taken.

(Excerpt) Read more at sportsillustrated.cnn.com ...


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To: Impy

Yep and yep.


41 posted on 12/05/2013 5:38:14 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: Old Sarge

Ah, but it does have consequences, doesn’t it...

...sure does...one of which is having people making silly posts on internet fora...


42 posted on 12/05/2013 5:45:39 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade

Then monitor your posts more closely, FRiend...


43 posted on 12/05/2013 5:49:47 PM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: driftdiver; Old Sarge
Actually, I think you can make an argument that the answer to that is yes.

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

During ratification, Amendment IX was well known to have referred to respect for the rights of Englishmen under the Common Law not already recognized in the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments. At that time, presumptive innocence would only have applied to Federal crimes, but would have been understood in the Constitutions of most states.

Coffin v. United States, did not really establish the principle of presumptive innocence -- in fact the decision itself goes through the whole body of existing case law in which this was already understood.

What Coffin did do is establish that failure to advise a jury of presumptive innocence was so serious that it was, in itself, a reversible error.

44 posted on 12/05/2013 5:50:06 PM PST by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: Old Sarge

Then monitor your posts more closely, FRiend...

...well, Sarge, can you back your statement that murder is condoned on the big football campuses, all so that losses don’t start accumulating...names and incidents, please...


45 posted on 12/05/2013 5:59:16 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Who in their right mind expected an elected official or one who answers to elected officials to take him off the team ahead of the two most important games of the year and decade for FSU? There was no chance in heck that the woman would get a fair shake in Tallahassee. When the police department tells a crime victim that there is pressure not to act, that should be a loud warning signal that there are more important matters than clearing up a crime.


46 posted on 12/05/2013 5:59:29 PM PST by armydawg505
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To: IrishBrigade

I’m conflicted on this...

If Louis Freeh finds a culture of football at FSU, it could be curtains for the program.


47 posted on 12/05/2013 5:59:30 PM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Delta Dawn

If Louis Freeh finds a culture of football at FSU, it could be curtains for the program.

...perhaps you can point out to me the football program that has been discontinued as a result of a Louie Freeh finding...


48 posted on 12/05/2013 6:09:57 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: armydawg505

When the police department tells a crime victim that there is pressure not to act, that should be a loud warning signal that there are more important matters than clearing up a crime.

...that would be correct, if it were true...we have her word and her attorney’s that’s what happened...


49 posted on 12/05/2013 6:11:55 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Old Sarge

Don’t know his motive... Meggs is a FSU grad. Maybe he didn’t make the pep squad. He has kicked up dirt in the past about at least one other football player who was eventually vindicated


50 posted on 12/05/2013 6:15:31 PM PST by The_Sword_of_Groo (My world view is accurately expressed in the lyrics of " The Fightin' Side of Me")
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To: sport

sounds like how der leader would be treated.


51 posted on 12/05/2013 6:21:53 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: FredZarguna

That all makes sense, thank you.


52 posted on 12/05/2013 6:23:11 PM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: IrishBrigade

I did not type discontinued, I typed curtains. But you get the drift.


53 posted on 12/05/2013 6:46:28 PM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Willie Meggs will charge anything that gets his name into the news. He either got stepped on, or there is not an iotta
of truth to the accusation.

I’m guessing stepped on.


54 posted on 12/05/2013 6:55:01 PM PST by theneanderthal
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To: theneanderthal

Willie Meggs will charge anything that gets his name into the news. He either got stepped on, or there is not an iotta
of truth to the accusation.

I’m guessing stepped on.


State capitol, football, Heisman Trophy, and BCS Championship Game. Yeah, he got stepped on...


55 posted on 12/05/2013 6:58:18 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Pics of happy post coital ho?

From earlier in the thread.

Who knows.

I Willie had a half case I’m sure he would proceed, and expect to prevail, in publicity.


56 posted on 12/05/2013 7:09:41 PM PST by theneanderthal
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