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To: nonsporting; MrB

The Hebrew words for the “sons of God” were the same ones used in the book of Job for ‘sons of God” in describing their gathering with God when Satan came to accuse Job and when they “shouted” for joy when God brought creation into being! The Genesis 6 “sons of God” were fallen angels with great power, already dealing with a race of fallen man out of fellowship with God! A human line of “sons of God” would not have created Nephilum genetic giant hybrids...the bones of which are still found. We were spiritually tempted and failed in the garden, then our genetics were demonically interfered with.

But God would send his Son to save those living and those held captive in Hell who would be saved and accept his kingship! Thus Noah was preserved!


53 posted on 12/05/2013 7:59:32 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6; nonsporting

For me, this is an “angels dancing on the head of a pin” topic... err... demons dancing on the head of a pin?

Anyway, if we’re still interested, we can ask about this some day soon.


64 posted on 12/05/2013 8:36:26 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: mdmathis6

AFAIK, angels/demons are spirits with no bodies and therefore no DNA.
Demons inhabit human bodies, but any mating that occurred would simply pass on the DNA of the inhabited body, no?


72 posted on 12/05/2013 8:49:05 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: mdmathis6; MrB; Boogieman

A note on Bible interpretation

1. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, both old and new testaments. (2 Timothy 3:15)
2. The Bible does not contradict itself. If it does, then it is not God’s word. If one of several verses appears to say something different (at odds) with the other verses on a subject, then that one is not correctly understood. The text should not be changed to make it “fit.” Instead, one should harmonize all references by comparing scripture with scripture. (2 Corinthians 2:12,13)

Sons of God

John 1: 11, 12: “He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”
[believers are sons of God, “begotten” of God]

Hebrews 1:5 “For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?”
[God never called an angel his son; he does call those who are “born again” his sons]

Hebrews 1:14 “Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”

[angels are ministering “spirits” sent forth on behalf of believing men “heirs of salvation” in Christ]

The Bible could not be clearer: angels are NOT the sons of God. They are spirits. Only believing men are sons of God.

Genesis 6:2, Job 2:1, Job 38:7 do not contradict. Specifically in Job 38:4 God is speaking to Job. If he is calling angels “sons of God”, then he is contradicting what he said in Hebrews 1:5 (spoken by Paul under the guidance of the Holy Spirit [God]). It is up to us to properly reconcile these verses, while not making God a liar. If we do not fully understand a verse (say Job 38:7), then the solution is not to rewrite it and make it contradict other verses, which is what the Septuagint, NIV, NLT do.

Job 38:7: 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

“When” can refer to time attendant before, during or after. The “morning stars” don’t have be angles, but could be lights in the firmament personified. And Adam and Eve, when they walked with God, and their believing offspring, even after the fall, all surely “shouted for joy.” (Job is post flood, probably a contemporary of Abraham, which puts his time frame approximately 2000 years after creation.)

I am a son of God. God is my Father and I am his son, an heir of salvation, because I have been given this power and authority by believing on his name (Jesus). Angels will never be his sons.


119 posted on 12/07/2013 7:26:21 AM PST by nonsporting
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