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1 posted on 12/01/2013 8:22:41 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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and ???


2 posted on 12/01/2013 8:25:03 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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You don’t really need to go very far back to find the life in which a simple disease or just an infected scratch might kill you.

Not far at all.


3 posted on 12/01/2013 8:30:04 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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Medium magazine? As in what? psychic medium?

Whatever.

No antibiotics will be the least of worries as this gimme culture takes root in demanding our medical community to work for free (not to be confused with charity, working for those who cannot) and we’re left with no medical care at all.

Besides, antibiotics should not have bee being used routinely.

Everyone knew that.


5 posted on 12/01/2013 8:30:41 PM PST by stanne
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A weak perpetually pharmaceutical dependent population.


6 posted on 12/01/2013 8:30:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Read up on the death of President Garfield. It took him a long time to die of the infection that most think the doctors gave him.


8 posted on 12/01/2013 8:34:21 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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Bring on the nano technology


9 posted on 12/01/2013 8:34:22 PM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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Such deaths were quite common before 1940. My uncle was working at a shop for Missouri Pacific in 1930. A tool slipped and he got a bad cut on the hand. They took him to the company doctor, who cleaned it up and stitched it uo. Carelessly as it turned out. Two weeks late my uncle was dead of an infection. He left behind a pregnant wife and a five year old son, and a little insurance but no income. My aunt, my Dad said, had always had a sweet disposition. Not when I knew her.


11 posted on 12/01/2013 8:35:05 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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Bacteria aren’t bullet proof, at least no more than we are. New antibiotics are possible and with scientific advances should be designable instead of counting on chance to find them as with the first generations. The problem is government and crony capitalism monopolies have been allowed to foul up their pricing. Plus government regulations aimed at ‘reducing risk’ have made them too expensive to develop. ‘Fix’ government (in the same sense as ‘fixing’ one’s cat) and useful products like new antibiotics will appear.


17 posted on 12/01/2013 8:39:09 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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It could be scary. In the years before antibiotics, 90% if deaths were caused by infectious diseases. After antibiotics became widespread, that figure changed to 10%. Now heart disease and Cancer are the big killers.


21 posted on 12/01/2013 8:41:07 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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Researching my family tree, every family had 8, 9 or 10+ kids. One or two children would die and the survivors would live well into their 80s or 90s. From 1700 on, every generation was like this.


26 posted on 12/01/2013 8:44:35 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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My daddy was born in May 1920.
His daddy died in June 1920 from an infection in a cut on his finger.


29 posted on 12/01/2013 9:01:37 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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Watch this PBS Frontline video - it’ll scare the crap outta you ...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hunting-the-nightmare-bacteria/

Its the full video - about 53 minutes.

It follows 3 cases of different varieties of “super bugs”. One in the American Southwest, one from a vacation in India, and a breakout at NIH.


33 posted on 12/01/2013 9:11:14 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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Imagining the Post-Antibiotics Post-Whale Oil Future

As long as the government stays out of it we will be fine. Humans have a limitless capacity to invent and innovate.

Of course if government is involved I can see a time when we will live in a world made by hand and die young because they tried to "conserve" instead of advance.

37 posted on 12/01/2013 9:25:34 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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Seems I read recently that nano tech may the answer. The rough surface they create totally destroys all micro organisms, The “germs” that cause infections may be defeted before entry.


38 posted on 12/01/2013 9:38:22 PM PST by Tuketu (The Dim Platform is splinters bound by crazy glue. The Tea Party is the solvent)
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At the top it gives you a “read time”. I’ve never seen that before.

Setting timer...


39 posted on 12/01/2013 10:09:31 PM PST by ToastedHead
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Anybody ever heard of this?

In 1941, I had a great Uncle die of a ruptured appendix, or so his death certificate states. My Great Aunt told me that a week after his appendix was removed, he was in the hospital doing fine. She went back to visit him the next day and he was talking about things like “you’re young, I want you to remarry”, “make sure the kids know I love them”. My Great Aunt said “You’ll be fine.” They had a 3 and 5 year old at the time, my Aunt being the 3 year old. He died the next day.

Fast forward to 1953, and my Aunt was 16. She went to the hospital and the doctor saw her name and asked her if my Great Uncle was her father. She said yes. He almost started crying and said they had given my Great Uncle a drug recommended for a ruptured appendix and he thinks they killed him, because when the hospital finally went through their mail in 1941, there was a Government advisory not to use this drug as it could
cause death. This was a small rural hospital. My Aunt was shocked and told her mother, but they did nothing. “Nothing can bring your father back”, my Great Aunt had said.

Does anyone know what this drug could have been?


43 posted on 12/01/2013 11:45:44 PM PST by MacMattico
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My .02:
The article is an emotional story and not a serious analysis of the problem without including 'government' in the equation.

From here

A. ANTIBIOTICS
Under prior law, antibiotic drugs were regulated differently than non-antibiotic drugs. <p>

Beginning in 1945, antibiotic drugs were regulated under Section 507 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FDC Act). From the outset, under Section 507, it was possible to obtain FDA approval for generic antibiotic products based on an abbreviated application without having to duplicate all safety and effectiveness testing supporting approval of the brand name antibiotic. (As noted above, before enactment of the Hatch-Waxman Amendments in 1984, there was no abbreviated approval mechanism for generic versions of non-antibiotic drug products first approved after 1962.)

As noted above, some -- but not all -- provisions of the Hatch- Waxman Amendments as enacted in 1984 applied to antibiotic drugs. In particular, the ANDA patent certification, automatic stay of ANDA approval pending resolution of patent litigation, and non-patent exclusive marketing period provisions did not apply to antibiotics

Section 507 of the FDC Act was repealed by the 1997 FDA reform legislation, effective immediately (November 21, 1997). Except for antibiotic drugs that were then the subject of an approved or pending application, applications for generic antibiotic drugs are now subject to delays in approval as a result of the non-patent exclusive marketing period, patent certification, and automatic stay of FDA approval pending resolution of patent infringement litigation provisions previously applicable only to non-antibiotic drug products.

If the act was repealed in 1997, my question: Why isn't the pharmaceutical industry reinvested in developing antibiotics?

Gee...I wonder.../s

49 posted on 12/02/2013 7:15:37 AM PST by logi_cal869
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Good read about the first antibiotic.

http://www.amazon.com/Demon-Under-Microscope-Battlefield-Hospitals-ebook/dp/B000JMKR2A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386022951&sr=8-1&keywords=demons+under+the+microscope


53 posted on 12/02/2013 2:26:28 PM PST by golf lover (goingf)
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