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Precious Metals are Tanking! Why? [Vanity]
November 20, 2013 | CivilWarBrewing

Posted on 11/20/2013 11:56:27 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing

I checked the stock market today and noticed it's down. But I also noticed that precious metals appear to be tanking. Gold is at $1245/oz and Silver at $19.85/oz.

What's going on here? Is J.P. Morgan or some other major player manipulating the precious metals market?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: gold; metals; precious; silver
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To: CivilWarBrewing
One answer..., Treasury interest rates are climbing in anticipation of Fed tapering!(if you believe they can gracefully eliminate their huge book of CRAP assets being accumulated).

Gold doesn't earn interest, it is a "store" of value, therefore the higher the interest rates (to a point) gold is sold in favor of higher paying investments. When inflation truly kicks in..., and paper assets become confetti, gold again becomes desirable!

Gold is not an "investment", it is an "insurance policy" of last resort! Always has been and always will be!

21 posted on 11/20/2013 12:12:55 PM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Jonty30

Rumor is that China is hoarding gold though.. I think this is a complicated issue, but interesting thoughts abound here.


22 posted on 11/20/2013 12:14:01 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Because they’ve been grossly over valued for a really long time. Eventually enough traders were going to realize that.


23 posted on 11/20/2013 12:15:52 PM PST by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

I see from your homepage you have a BS in Finance and an MBA so I sincerely believe you understand how the FED’s QE is primarily a deflation-fighting apparatus. All this talk about easing QE when the unemployment rate hits 6.5% is pablum for the masses and diverts the middle class from the possibility of postponing purchases until the prices come down in the future (thereby helping the deflationary process).


24 posted on 11/20/2013 12:16:27 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Everyone is selling their gold holdings so they can buy BitCoins.


25 posted on 11/20/2013 12:19:44 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Wyatt's Torch

I think a lot of us believe that it will end in runaway inflation, but it will be preceded by deflation. I see these drops strictly as buying opportunities.


26 posted on 11/20/2013 12:26:12 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Minutes of Fed meeting released at 2pm ... look at the chart.


27 posted on 11/20/2013 12:29:59 PM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: CivilWarBrewing
has ..George Soros ever done this before?


28 posted on 11/20/2013 12:31:25 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: cuban leaf

I will not be giving up any of my precious metals (lead and brass) any time soon.


29 posted on 11/20/2013 12:31:47 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll take a look.)
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To: SeaHawkFan
The value of precious metals really only count when your buying or selling them.

If one needs to buy when its low it is a good thing if one has to sell when they are low it is a bad thing.

30 posted on 11/20/2013 12:33:00 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Let me put it in the words of Billy Ray Valentine, Capricorn......

"Okay, precious metal prices have been dropping all morning, which means that everybody is waiting for it to hit rock bottom, so they can buy low. Which means that the people who own the precious metal contracts are saying, "Hey, we're losing all our damn money, and Christmas is around the corner, and I ain't gonna have no money to buy my son the G.I. Joe with the Kung-Fu Grip! And my wife ain't gonna make love to me if I got no money!" So they're panicking right now, they're screaming "SELL! SELL!" to get out before the price keeps dropping. They're panicking out there right now, I can feel it."

31 posted on 11/20/2013 12:34:06 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: MrB

In 1983 I bought physical silver at $16 and even then it was high and collapsed so be careful. The story is more than this involving my father but no one cares


32 posted on 11/20/2013 12:35:45 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Chad_the_Impaler

Minutes of Fed meeting released at 2pm ... look at the charts.
33 posted on 11/20/2013 12:38:22 PM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: dfwgator

Talk about decline. Eddie Murphy has been on decline since then.

****Great movie though!!


34 posted on 11/20/2013 12:46:38 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

I think a lot of us believe that it will end in runaway inflation, but it will be preceded by deflation. I see these drops strictly as buying opportunities.

But I prefer real estate (land). I can actually use that.


35 posted on 11/20/2013 12:51:50 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: CivilWarBrewing

The phony metals paper trading market is what’s moving down today. The real valuable physical stuff is sitting in people’s vaults and safes.


36 posted on 11/20/2013 12:52:47 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: Travis T. OJustice

I will not be giving up any of my precious metals (lead and brass) any time soon.


Likewise. I tend to buy, but have not sold a single oz.


37 posted on 11/20/2013 12:52:48 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Chad_the_Impaler
Looks like their having a sale! The last time I bought, it was right around this price, so I'm hoping for some more discouraging words from the Fed, so I can get some more before common sense kicks in and it goes up.

My first, and biggest buy, was silver at around $6.50 and gold at $420. so I'm still on the plus side of the curve.

38 posted on 11/20/2013 12:57:41 PM PST by Wingy
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Newly released Fed minutes show that the end of their program of monetary stimulus is approaching. Interest rates will then rise, which will drive down precious metal prices as commodities speculation becomes more expensive in terms of carrying costs and less attractive than the more secure profits that will soon be available from lending. The current sell off is a way for metals speculators to secure profits in anticipation of the price decline that will ensue because of the Fed pull back.


39 posted on 11/20/2013 12:59:02 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: CivilWarBrewing

my thought is that I think silver is a tremendously attractive buying opportunity! gold also attractive but not quite as much as silver, which looks like a real steal !!
(for long term investors, of course, as ... these sort of things can and do go up AND down in short term trading )

but anyway since you asked for our thoughts, there’s one for you.

worth about what you paid for it, incidentally, you puts up your money and you takes your chances

good luck!


40 posted on 11/20/2013 1:00:02 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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