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FR Contest: Will Sibelius resign/get fired? If so, guess the date she goes under the bus?
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Posted on 10/24/2013 6:40:21 AM PDT by ken5050

FReepers are well know for their political acumen. So, in advance of the House hearing today on how NOT to design a website, do you think she'll stay or go? If she goes, when? And will Obama try and seem tough, efficient, announcing that he had "requested her resignation.".


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To: ken5050

I don’t expect her to leave. While she might make a good scape goat for Obama, he does not want to deal with confirmation hearings drawing more light to this. The path of least resistance will probably be to blame a contractor even though apparently no one single contractor was in charge of this project.


21 posted on 10/24/2013 8:07:55 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: ken5050

Obama never fires people for incompetence... in fact he usually promotes them. He’ll probably make a new position for her, something like “Goddess of Mind, Body and Spirit” or some such thing.


22 posted on 10/24/2013 8:10:32 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: ken5050
I'm with those that say she will not leave or be fired.

Obama's going to dig in. Any delay in Obamacare will vindicate Ted Cruz, and Obama will not allow that to happen.

23 posted on 10/24/2013 8:18:15 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: ConchKarl

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“The last cabinet member I can remember resigning was William Jennings Bryan in 1915 when he refused to sign a diplomatic note that Wilson wanted to him to send to the Germans.”

That is interesting.
I recall reading years ago (10-15 years) where at one time it was “traditional” that every one or two years the cabinet members would offer to resign - verbally and directly to the President.
The offer was likely to be refused, but the intent was to keep the President from asking a sitting cabinet member to resign that he had once appointed.

I do not recall the source, as it has been so long since seeing that, and when (or if) the “tradition” died off.


24 posted on 10/24/2013 8:18:42 AM PDT by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: unlearner

Just what I was going to write. Any confirmation hearing opens up a can of worms! Plus serving cabinet secretaries have much more legal protection than ex-secretaries. So, no resignation, no firing.

Just remember this is the most transparent and ethical administration in history. It says so right on the label, just below “Union Made” and “You didn’t build this!” (If the latter refers to this mess, why are they trying so hard to blame everyone else for it?)


25 posted on 10/24/2013 8:22:27 AM PDT by SES1066 (To expect courteous government is insanity!)
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To: Verbosus

The first thing that cabinet members do upon being sworn in is submit an undated letter of resignation to the Chief of Staff..


26 posted on 10/24/2013 8:30:57 AM PDT by ken5050 (Benghazi investigation update: "The plot thickens, like Hillary Clinton's ankles.." (longfellow")
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To: ken5050

Why should Sebelius resign when she’s succeeded so brilliantly?

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/21/why-obamacare-is-fantastic-success/


27 posted on 10/24/2013 8:56:38 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: ken5050
She won't resign or be fired.

1. Obama's narcissism won't allow it, ever since Van Jones stepped down.

2. Obama doesn't want two confirmation hearings going on in the Senate (Homeland and HHS).

-PJ

28 posted on 10/24/2013 9:12:54 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: ken5050

Nope. That would be Obama admitting 1) he picked somebody who wasn’t good, 2) the website isn’t as easy as “booking a hotel room”, 3) the problem (which doesn’t exist) with the website is not due to Republicans being cheap with money (new talking point yd, various sources echoing it today), and 4) there’s something wrong with Obamacare itself that made the website construction harder than usual.


29 posted on 10/24/2013 9:26:21 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: ConchKarl

A quibble: I can’t think of any that have resigned under pressure, but many have simply voluntarily packed up their bags and moved on. Secretary of Interior Ken Salazar comes to mind immediately as just one example.


30 posted on 10/24/2013 9:30:41 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

Ah, I rummaged around a little and see that the AG is indeed part of the Cabinet. I thought is was just “Secretary of X”. In that case, AG’s Mitchell (Nixon) and Meese (Reagan) did indeed resign under pressure.


31 posted on 10/24/2013 9:38:36 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

I sure that some might have resigned under pressure, but I am unaware of any of them that have stood up and said I don’t agree with what the President is doing and therefore I resign. This was the case with William Jennings Bryan.

In this country, there are very few who stand up and state I don’t agree and I hereby resign; or I should be held responsible for actions that occurred during my watch.

When was the last time a military officer tendered his resignation? Looking at the mix of officers at the upper command echelons, I fear for this country.


32 posted on 10/24/2013 9:41:58 AM PDT by ConchKarl (From a member of the Herd, 173rd)
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To: ConchKarl

Yep nobody is going to leave on principle these days. At best, they’ll have something lined up at a think tank or university and that will be their exit line.


33 posted on 10/24/2013 9:44:24 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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