Posted on 10/23/2013 7:31:10 AM PDT by massmike
A high school football coach in Texas was slapped with a formal bullying complaint after his team won 91-0 on Friday.
Aledo High School, the football team that put up a score you’d expect to see in a basketball game, has scored 77 points or more in their last four games. This is the first complaint that has been filed against head coach Tim Buchanan for his team’s blowout victories.
The dad of a player on the team that was blown out, Western Hills High School, claims Buchanan encouraged his players to bully their opponents by running up the score.
Buchanan is adamant that no bullying occurred in his team’s win. Not only did he pull his starters in the first quarter, his third string players were on the field when the clock ran out. After the first half was over, the officials began running a clock that didn’t stop unless a timeout or score occurred and in the fourth quarter, the officials used a continuous running clock, so the score could have reached triple digits.
Neither Buchanan or his team were happy over the victory. “We were just sitting there,” Buchanan said. “You’d have thought we got beat. I looked around and asked, ‘Is there anyone here that feels good?’” Buchanan says that while such victories aren’t anything he takes pleasure in, he can’t tell his kids to quit, either.
“I’m not gonna tell a kid that comes out here and practices six to seven hours a week trying to get ready for football games, ‘Hey, you can’t score a touchdown if you get in, you’re gonna have to take a knee,’ Buchanan said. “That may be the only touchdown that kid gets to score in his high school career.”
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It's not "fair" to overwhelm the enemy with superior force anymore.
-PJ
Oh, that skiing poster is rich! Thanks.
We here in Fort Worth would like to know who this “The dad of a player” is. Odds are he’s not a true Texican, most likely someone who got transferred here from RATland.
I get your point. To be embarrassed is to be bullied.
I get what you’re saying. Even though you are wrong and nobody else agrees with you - you think there should be no winners or losers in football.
How very liberal of you.
(And before you start whining again about strawmen - keep in mind that even a 1 point loss might cause embarrasment - and since you say that is verboten....)
Sounds like something Orwell's 1984 Newspeak Dictionary
Playing football is a good way to get hurt.
And when players get hurt, someone else has to fill in for that injured player. If the team that you are playing against is such a poor opponent, then you have the opportunity to cross train players. Players who are cross trained have a much better understanding when they are called to fill in. Further, under those circumstances, the cross trained player is far LESS likely to be injured in that role than a player who has not filled that position at all.
It is called, building your bench.
My local team is a powerhouse and at times when they know with 99% certainty they are going to beat someone and beat them bad, they will get the lead and then work on a part of the game they are weak at and finish the game working on that part of their offense with subs. If the lead is way up there, they will run simple draw or trap plays right at would be tacklers. Now if the other team starts taking cheap shots... All bets are off.
amen
Indeed, and it's about how you treat people that are overmatched. That's sportsmanship. Grinding people into sawdust isn't part of that value. The student-athletes should be learning about ethics, respect, and fellowship for fellow competitors.
I happen to be a pretty good tennis player. I play recreationally with my friends and colleagues. If I wanted to, I could pound the people I play with and clobber them. But that's not fun for me and it's not fun for them. So when I play, I usually take it easy and the matches are more competitive. What's better is that the people I play with will often get better as they practice and play me--it's important that you play people better than yourself to get better. My competitors get better, everyone finishes a match and had a good time, and we're eager to play again the next time.
yep, the injury risk of not going full speed is indeed a valid point too. Playing your subs and having a fast clock are all you can do.
That’s fine, as long as it’s done in practice....I got the impression you wanted players to go into a game playing a position they hadn’t even practiced at.
I made this mistake too- I assumed the coach let his player stomp and them based on an old video I saw of poor sports celebrating and high fiving each other after the scored yet another touchdown in a blowout game...
It seems this coach did everything right- INCLUDING telling his players there was nothing to celebrate afterwards.
Meaningless?
What if some of these kids are good enough to get a scholarship and go on to play Collage ball then good enough to get a chance at pro?
Let’s be mediocre so we don’t hurt anyone’s feelings.
Pro’s don’t want mediocre.
I’m not whining about a strawman. You made a strawman and I said it wasn’t revelant. Much like your comment about a one point loss is a strawman.
Winning and losing is an important part of sports, because it teaches values of sportsmanship. But those values aren’t taught when someone is running up the score for no other purpose than to embarrass their opponent.
But, that said, winning and losing isn’t the be-all, end-all. Sportsmanship and fair play is the be-all, end all, which is why everyone (rightly) looks admirably at professional golfers who call penalties on themselves. Bobby Jones called a one stroke penalty on himself in the US Open, which, but for the penalty, he would have won in regulation play. He lost the US Open, but the principles of sportsmanship were more important than winning or losing. I’m saying that is the lesson that we should instill in high school athletics.
Bobby Bowden was once accused of running up the score on his opponents and replied, “I can’t coach both teams.”
I live in Indiana, and we have a six tier class system, divided by population but Class 6 is for the really strong Class 5 schools. All Class 6 schools play in Class 5 for their regular season schedule, but play Class 6 as a separate “super” class for the state championship. Our two local schools are Class 6.
We have the same problems of weak teams with the inner city Indianapolis schools. Once upon a time, Indianapolis Public Schools had strong sports teams, including football. Then back in the early 1970s an unenlightened Federal District Judge imposed a racial busing order that shipped a significant number of inner city kids to the surrounding suburban schools. IPS still had to bear the cost of busing and educating those kids; the costs were not transferred to the suburban schools. The result was it killed the inner city schools, and all of their extra-cirricular activities.
What it also did was allow some of the suburban schools to “recruit” the best talent away from IPS. Warren Central is really good at this and built a football dynasty. The busing is done by neighborhood; if you live, say, in a block around 34th & Illinois, you get bused to Warren. So the Warren coaches get the prime 8th grade IPS kids to move to 34th and Illinois, and probably get parents and cousins jobs, whatever. The parents definitely don’t want their kids to go to Tech or Arlington, they want the suburban school. Because the kids are moving within the existing IPS school district and are technically still IPS kids, it doesn’t count as a transfer where they would have to sit out a year of eligibility. So the suburbs can bleed the inner city of the athletic talent without having the families actually move to the suburbs.
I think the winning coach did what he should do. Essentially that team won 13 TD’s to 0. When you look at it like that, it’s not that bad.
Yes it’s a meaningless analogy....for so many reasons.
First, business and sales production in real life has nothing to do with a sporting event in high school.
Second, your production in real business is not against each other.....this is a win win for the business, which is not the dynamic when two teams are playing each other, where a win win is not possible.
Third, running up score on lesser opposition has no translation to being a pro in that sport.
The only similarity at all is the PC notion of fairness, and the fact that the same people who would be offended by the run up of the score would want the “fair” compensation system regardless of production. Thats it.
Then you continue on your your hypothetical and made up argument:
But those values aren’t taught when someone is running up the score for no other purpose than to embarrass their opponent.It is clear and obvious that you jave not read the article or any replies. Sorry if I shout here - but maybe shouting is the only way to get though to you?
ALEDO DID NOT RUN UP THE SCORE.
From what I heard, the winning coach cleared his bench, took their time and did everything possible except take a knee at every play.
What else should he have done?
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