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On Hannity's Show Cruz & Lee: Enough With McCain, Ayotte, Etc, Publicly Bashing Conservatives
10/17/2013 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 10/17/2013 6:53:27 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

This public bashing needs to stop.

Yesterday, I saw on television Ayotte still going at it talking about how this shutdown doesn't need to happen again. Maybe so, but enough of McCain, Graham, Ayotte, Corker, Peter King, etc, airing things out in public.

Cruz, last night talked in part abvout McCain dive-bombing House Republicans, how this disunified Republicans, and how non-unity in the House/Senate torpedoed any chance of delaying or altering parts of ObamaCare - and Hannity brought up other individuals.

But enough is enough.

If they have a problem with someone or something take it to them in private - but don't air it out in public ad nauseum.

They can get their invites to all of the DC/NYC/Martha's Vineyard special events, or notoreity, kicks, thrills - whatever - some other way, but not at the expense of the GOP and the Tea Party in public forums.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: 113th; ayotte; bobcorker; collaborator; congress; corker; cruz; democrats; king; lee; mccain; mikelee; palin; peterking; randpaul; sellout; teaparty; tedcruz
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To: Cboldt

Sadly, I fear you are right.


41 posted on 10/17/2013 8:09:46 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

When is McCain’s term up? I thought he refrained from running for the Senate in 2008.


42 posted on 10/17/2013 8:52:45 AM PDT by Humal
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To: grumpygresh

You make excellent points. Let me offer some thoughts. I agree that dividing the citizenry helps limit the power of the general population. That has worked well for many, many years here in the US.

You make clear that it is a systematic problem and encourage support for those who champion limited government. I contend this cannot achieve strong political support although it can achieve wide popularity. The reason can be illustrated by imagining a politician in his office, considering the next election. He MUST raise sufficient dollars to fund the campaign. To get big donations, he has to support something that supports the donor. He also sees a steady stream of constituents who want something (few if any constituents visit their representative’s office and ask for him to do less and not give them money). His colleagues, many of whom control what he can get done as a legislator and what committees he can serve on, want his vote so they can give out goodies to their similarly-demanding constituents. There is no future in saying no. The only way that a politician succeeds in the current system is to give out goodies and support the actions of government in controlling things (popularly believed to be “solving problems” and “doing things for people”).

How do you fix that kind of incentive system? You can’t do it by supporting individual politicians who support limited government. Even those individuals cannot limit gov’t much and if they tried, they would have no support in short order. Things like restrictive budget laws, restrictions on voting funds for one’s own constituents, strong laws against voting on laws that your donors have an interest in, and other systemic changes are necessary, at a minimum.

Your points about article V are well-founded. Your observation that the fed gov’t is a threat is clear and insightful. The system as it is structured tends to increase that threat over time. It is a system that actually benefits the Fed gov’t when that gov’t does a poorer job—resulting in more calls from the genl population for strong, centralized action.

I don’t think activity focused on individual politicians or small acts is a path to fundamental improvements. But, that is just my opinion. I appreciate and welcome your thoughts and criticisms.


43 posted on 10/17/2013 9:08:34 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: TauntedTiger

I have trouble with tears publicly even when I am very sad/upset. I know people for whom it is hard to cry. I think it’s an individual thing.


44 posted on 10/17/2013 9:10:35 AM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: Paladin2

More like a foursome...you forgot Linda :-/


45 posted on 10/17/2013 9:16:45 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Paine in the Neck

I’d take a dim over Ayotte. Same diff.


46 posted on 10/17/2013 9:17:39 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Paine in the Neck
"If there’s a strong (2016) GOP pres candidate...."

BBbbbwwwwaahasaaaaaaaw. That's a good one.

47 posted on 10/17/2013 9:19:38 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: kcvl

BIG Banks and BIG Insurance funding $2B DAM Midge. No surprise.


48 posted on 10/17/2013 9:21:42 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Ronald Reagan coined the expression “The Eleventh Commandment.” McQueeg is a walking, talking violation of that Commandment. He has been for decades, and I wish he’d STFU and retire immediately. But he won’t, he’ll hang on until he’s carried out of the office feet first. If he would use just a tenth of the bile that he spills on conservatives against the liberals....

He is a perfect example of why the GOP is dead.


49 posted on 10/17/2013 9:24:18 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Paladin2

Hope springs eternal, Paladin.


50 posted on 10/17/2013 9:25:03 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: PlateOfShrimp
Cruz tacked away from the fleet and a number followed.

The fleet Commodores are annoyed as that potentially puts their well honed tactics at risk and shows those in their wind wakes that there are other tactics to use to get to clear air.

If the Cruz Armada attracts more independent thinking and more Cruz ships are launched to join the fray, the Commodores may have to eventually have to tack to cover the fleet renegades, thus all sailing in a new direction.

51 posted on 10/17/2013 9:28:43 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ilgipper
Ayotte turned out to be a steaming turd. She road the conservative base to office, and not only is voting with the opposition but publicly bashing the very people people that got her there. Pathetic.

Red England is the least religious region of the country...no moral compass. Lying is as natural as breathing to them.

52 posted on 10/17/2013 9:29:26 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

What is it with Ayotte? Was she a plant? We’d better do a better job at vetting.


53 posted on 10/17/2013 10:25:37 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: Jane Long
BIG Banks and BIG Insurance funding $2B DAM Midge. No surprise.

And that money's coming from the Federal Reserve Board, thanks to Quantitative Easing.

54 posted on 10/17/2013 10:32:07 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The way to get the undocumented democrats, like McCrazy, to stop attacking Ted Cruz is to call them out about why they’re doing it: They attack Ted Cruz because they’re racists who hate Hispanic people.


55 posted on 10/17/2013 11:48:16 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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