Posted on 10/17/2013 6:53:27 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
This public bashing needs to stop.
Yesterday, I saw on television Ayotte still going at it talking about how this shutdown doesn't need to happen again. Maybe so, but enough of McCain, Graham, Ayotte, Corker, Peter King, etc, airing things out in public.
Cruz, last night talked in part abvout McCain dive-bombing House Republicans, how this disunified Republicans, and how non-unity in the House/Senate torpedoed any chance of delaying or altering parts of ObamaCare - and Hannity brought up other individuals.
But enough is enough.
If they have a problem with someone or something take it to them in private - but don't air it out in public ad nauseum.
They can get their invites to all of the DC/NYC/Martha's Vineyard special events, or notoreity, kicks, thrills - whatever - some other way, but not at the expense of the GOP and the Tea Party in public forums.
You are correct. If the R party holds 46 Senate seats, the party won’t pay attention to other opinions. If the R party desperately needs more votes to even hold on to their cherished seats, let alone win more seats, then the other opinions will get their attention.
Want to get their attention even more? Get to the sources of funding for these politicians. Find out who the big donors are and promote your point of view as better for them and for the citizenry on which their livelihood depends.
What you said!!!!!!!!!!
Dammit Jim, I’m a physicist, not a parliamentarian. It is possible, as some have claimed, that Sen. Cruz made some sort of tactical mistake. But if so, it should have been handled privately. I have had it up to my keister with Republicans grandstanding by attacking their own.
My mother once warned me about ppl who cry w/o tears.
Listen to Kelly Ayotte speak on any topic, she slips into weep-speak mid sentence. Never seen one tear.
THAT'S RIGHT RINOs....NEVER AGAIN WILL I VOTE FOR ‘RAT LITE!
“Moderates” are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum. They will happily throw a race to the democrats just to turn around and say “See, I told you so”.
The GOP has been moderated into a coma and these Kapo Republican’ts are pinching the feeding tube of the patient as their Democrat masters happily goose step their way to full on fascism.
Watch Hannity now before he is pulled from the air. The Democrats & Rino-Republicans will pass a law banning hate speech and hate parties —like the Tea Party. The NSA will handcuff Hanity and sarah Palin -— Bill O will just change his tune and praise Obama—and keep his freedom.
If the Tea Party types could hold together in a principled way and stay home or split votes against rinos, it will kill the big money donors as well. Donors aren’t going to spend big to support someone with no chance of winning. Ultimately, the rinos will have to do more than provide lip service to their base.
I predict the pressure on Boehner to step down from his House leadership position may cause him to resign. However, the pressure in Wash DC will be to replace him with someone who can squash the Tea Party voices. I imagine P King is dreaming about this right now. Unfortunately, that ensures the House (1) has no strategy for growing the party and winning elections and (2) further alienates the base voters. It would be taking a modest defeat and turning it into a rout. The key here is the lack of a strategy.
The R party is convinced that demographics are the same as political influence—that has appeared to be true in the past three decades but I contend that it is a misleading relationship as is the urban/rural distinction. There is a more fundamental factor that must be the focus of new political strategy. The Dem party has identified it as greed and uses its impressive propaganda machine to legitimize greed by demonizing members of opposing groups. This is especially easy to do to the Tea Party because it holds no seats and has no official status. The Dems have also done it to the R party because the R party has no propaganda system. What little media they have is a skeptical talk radio system.
Prior to the 1970s, that demographic relationship with left/right voting did not exist in the same way it does now. The more important variables include prosperity, social affiliation, sense of personal intelligence, and possibly others. Voting is an individual act as is donating. If voters believe they and the people they care about prosper more under your leadership, are on the winning team and have more social support if they support you, and are the more intelligent voter because they support you, then you have a powerful advantage in politics.
The R party strategy at this time is to shrink their voter numbers for national elections and pit state leaders against other state leaders. That is unmanageable and works, at best, at the state and lower levels. It is not viable in national elections.
I analyze and design strategies as a good part of my work. There is much more to this but I offer these ideas for scrutiny and improvement.
In fact we conservatives have been "team playered" ourselves nearly out of existence. Time to get up on our hind legs.
I’d rather have them air it out in public. Otherwise they fool even more fools.
Ayotte turned out to be a steaming turd. She road the conservative base to office, and not only is voting with the opposition but publicly bashing the very people people that got her there. Pathetic.
That dynamic follows the election cycle. Come election time, you'll find no shortage of defenders of big government Republicans.
You’re right about the Collaborators, those attacking Tea-Party patriots.
On the other hand, those fighting against us while stating they are one of us need to be outed in the most public of manners and constantly.
They need to be run out of D.C.
Too bad we can’t do the Tar and Feathers approach, because it is really appropriate in this situation.
Peter King is close to being as big a prick as MeCain!
Personally I believe it’s time to fight fire with fire.
TEA Party Senators need to concentrate their fire against McCain and completely destroy him as having been broken by the communist and he’s now an al Qaeda collaborator.
TEA Party Representatives need to do the same thing with Pete King. Concentrate on his supporting the IRA terrorist and now al Qaeda.
Do exactly what the left does.
Go into a compete feeding frenzy against these 2 and the other left wing collaborators will start getting the message.
There were more than enough Senate Rino votes that John Cornyn was able to vote no when he never offered any support for Cruz or Lee in their courageous battle against funding Obamacare and postponing the individual mandate.
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People who voted for Mitt Romney in many cases could not stand him. They were not in favor of big government Republicans. It was Obama and his criminal, radical gang they were trying to oust. Therefore for them, Romney was a placeholder, a holding action until there was a real candidate for our side.
I tell it it this way. In TX, in order to help oust the Obama gang, Texans held their noses and voted Romney, BUT AT THE SAME TIME SENT TED CRUZ TO WASHINGTON.
If not for those votes that were cast AGAINST, NOT FOR, make no mistake Obama would have taken the great state of Texas into his column.
Romney was a terrible pick in the tradition of Dole, McCain and GHWB. Who doesn’t know that?
Today and tomorrow, we need to put everything behind a candidate that is the opposite of those, and not splinter our votes away into nothing.
“Prior to the 1970s, that demographic relationship with left/right voting did not exist in the same way it does now.”
The left/right paradigm is really a false paradigm created by the authoritarian establishment that favors big centralized government. The authoritarians want total control, and the best way to accomplish this goal is to artificially divide the electorate along racial, income, religious and cultural lines. As far as political parties are concerned, the Democrats and entirely complicit and the Republicans are mostly complicit save a few brave souls in the House and Senators such as Rand Paul, Cruz, and Lee.
The Federal government IS the enemy of the people; it’s the greatest threat our nation has faced since the first civil war. Of course we need to support those individuals at the Federal level that share our view of limited government. But as for the rest of them, no support or allegiance will be rendered under the principle of supporting the lesser evil.
I think that the answer must come at the state level through all possible resistance- nullification efforts, through what remains of the Constitution via article V, through individual and collective civil disobedience, and by employing creative efforts to frustrate Federal activity.
But you don't get to vote against. You vote for. That, ironically for you as a Texan, is the lesson of your Senator, Ted Cruz, regarding Obamacare. If you vote for it, you support it.
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