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To: DannyTN

You listed Old Testament scriptures. That applied to the Jewish State that God had ordained his people to live by.

We no longer live under that law. I encourage you to look at dozens of New Testament examples that now pertain to us.


21 posted on 10/16/2013 1:15:54 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"We no longer live under that law. I encourage you to look at dozens of New Testament examples that now pertain to us."

The New Testament speaks very little about government or rulers. When it does, it admonishes us to pay our taxes, duties, etc. It calls government "God's minister". And it tells us not to "despise government".

2Pe 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Rom 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. Rom 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

That doesn't mean that when a ruler does evil we can't dispose him, like King George. but it does mean that government is to be God's minster for good. And that would presumably include not letting people starve.

26 posted on 10/16/2013 1:28:10 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Responsibility2nd
You listed Old Testament scriptures. That applied to the Jewish State that God had ordained his people to live by.

We no longer live under that law.

We do live under part of that law. Chritians are not free to do as they please. In fact, being made free from the bondage of sin allows us to adhere more closely to the moral principles of God/Christ/Spirit.

The problem is the dilemma denominational theology and church errors have led their sheeple into: the "social gospel"; effected both at home and in the external missions. It basically removes the necessity of the "prodigal son" to repent of his/her materialism and misplaced lusts, and return to the Father.

Just my opinion --

32 posted on 10/16/2013 1:52:12 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Jesus spoke with derision about a tradition of people giving to the temple for the care of their parents instead of taking care of them themselves.

This is a description of what welfare is - pawning off your individual responsibility on some institution.


42 posted on 10/16/2013 2:14:23 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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