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To: Responsibility2nd
I dissagree. I see in scripture mandates to individuals, churches and yes, government to help the poor. That a mandate exist to individuals to help does not negate the mandate to the government.

Jerimiah 22 links the authority to the rule to considering the cause of the poor and needy.

Proverbs 31 tells king Lemuel to plead the cause of the poor and needy.

Dan 4:27 tells the king to show mercy to the poor and ties it to a "lengthening of tranquility".

Proverbs 29:14 also states that a king's rulership is tied to how he treats the poor.

If "we the people" want to continue to rule. "We the people" better take those warnings seriously in how we execute government responsibility.

13 posted on 10/16/2013 1:10:00 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

You listed Old Testament scriptures. That applied to the Jewish State that God had ordained his people to live by.

We no longer live under that law. I encourage you to look at dozens of New Testament examples that now pertain to us.


21 posted on 10/16/2013 1:15:54 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: DannyTN

How the liberals treat the poordiffersgreatly from how Christianity treats the poor. Destruction of families, poor housing, no work, abortion, drugs, enslavement generation after generation. That’s the social justice of the communists. That’s what we have.

That is Not Christian in any form or reason!


35 posted on 10/16/2013 2:03:56 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: DannyTN; Springfield
“Jerimiah 22 links the authority to the rule to considering the cause of the poor and needy.”

I beg to differ, God is definitely talking to the individuals here; Jerimiah 22 : 1-2 (NASB):

Thus says the LORD, “Go down to the house of the king of Judah, and there speak this word 2 and say, ‘Hear the word of the LORD, O king of Judah, who sits on David’s throne, you and your servants and your people who enter these gates.

“Proverbs 31 tells king Lemuel to plead the cause of the poor and needy."

Are you referring to what the good wife extending her hands to the poor?

"Dan 4:27 tells the king to show mercy to the poor and ties it to a "lengthening of tranquility".

Danial 4:27 “Therefore, O king, may my advice be pleasing to you [the individual – you; the king]: break away now from your sins by doing righteousness and from your iniquities by showing mercy to the poor, in case there may be a prolonging of your prosperity.

Again, I beg to differ; he is addressing the king in his individual responsibilities; not the king's commands to his people.

“Proverbs 29:14 also states that a king's rulership is tied to how he treats the poor.”

Proverbs 29:14: “If a king judges the poor with truth, His throne will be established forever”

Judging the poor with truth does not constitute a mandate of his subjects to give to the poor by the king.

These are very poor examples of why the government should care for the poor with the taxes of its subjects; maybe you can provide better ones?

56 posted on 10/16/2013 5:58:03 PM PDT by celmak
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