“I dare say we already have a third party.
"We have the liberal party, the GOP machine, and then we’ve got the Good Guys.”
"Like, Senator's (Ted)Cruz, (Mike) Lee & Rand Paul" she went on to say...
Posted on 10/11/2013 11:17:59 AM PDT by Q-ManRN
It is time for a new conservative party. I am tired of the Republican Party because it represents keeping the status quo in D.C. The truth is the D.C. establishment consists of both republicans and democrats whose goal is to keep our money flowing into D.C. thereby making everyone beholden to the federal government. These politicians walk away mufti-millionaires with lifetime benefits at our expense while their constituents have less and less of their hard-earned money.
Every few years we talk about winning the next election and then taking back the government; however, that never happens because our so-called representatives really represent the D.C. establishment. The supposed republican vs. democrat battle is a circus sideshow that distracts us from the fact that the federal government gets bigger and more power with each passing year. A vote for most republicans is a vote for the D.C. establishment. If the republicans were serious about changing D.C., they would have done it before now.
I was hoping that Sarah Palin might start the Freedom Party that she had mentioned in a recent interview; nevertheless, I have heard nothing more about that possibility.
Go ahead, and choose from any of the 60 or 70 “third parties” that are out there. Meanwhile, I’ll join Ted Cruz and Mike Lee and Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin in recapturing the Republican party.
Time For A New Conservative Party!
I love the idea of a Third Party. If you need any help, please let me know. I would be happy to lend my considerable organizing skills and financial resources.
Sincerely,
Barry Obama
PS: I can think of nothing else which would help keep my party in power for decades to come.
....dang, you had me going there for a second......LOL
Have you asked Scott Walker? He defeated union thugs three times and just turned a budget surplus in Wisconsin with a third party, ER, Republican majority in the House and Senate.
Isn’t there already a “conservative party” we can build on?
My thoughts are similar. Think about the name “Republican” and strip away the negative connotation it now has with most of us. A party favoring a Republic, a nation of law (the Constitution), not on majority rule (Democracy; Democrats).
So the problem isn’t the name of the party or what it should stand for based on its name. The problem is it’s been overrun with people who don’t value the Constitution and the limited government principles contained therein. We need to work within the party to make the Republican party stand for what it should literally - a free Republic.
The GOP would have to then move left and try to pick off the middle of the road dems. Sort of a flip of the UK where the tea party/conservatives would be like the Liberals, dems Labour and GOP Tories?
You do not want to win.
Nobody who supports a third Party is interested in winning.
You are only interested in your ego.
You have good, Conservative Republicans sticking their necks out for you, and do you have THEIR backs?
NO! You are actually a traitor to the Conservative cause by spending so much time trying to take down the GOP, rather than supporting the Conservative Republicans who are trying to do the right thing.
Here is why Third parties never take hold in the US-—unlike Europe. In Europe they have parliamentary governments and elections. You might have three or four conservative parties and two or three left wing parties. After the election is over, whichever coalition is the biggest can get together and elected a prime minister and coalition cabinet and government.
Here in the US it does not work that way. We have a winner take all type of election system. Say you have a particular congressional district that leans conservative. In a congressional election, the Republican and Third Party Conservative candidate split between them 60% of the vote. The Democrat, however, wins 40% of the vote. Even though the district voted 60% conservative, the Democrat wins. This is why third parties never take hold in the US. And never will.
The muslim commies took over the Dem party, we can take the Repub party away from the Dem-lite RINOs.
I’m more than open to it. Ronald Reagan was the watershed figure that made me a solid and lifelong Republican voter/supporter, but when the cowardly and loathesome GOP-E joined in with the northeastern lib media to trash and backstab Palin, I became totally untethered from the Republican Party. Pushing amnesty and nominating Romney, a northeastern liberal who facilitated fag-marriage, was the last straw.
The GOP did not get my vote in 2012 because of this. Romney and Ryan and the whole GOP-E can go burn in hell!
I kind of like the Tea Party concept which I don’t really view as a party, but as a conglomeration of individuals with similar conservative ideas that nonetheless coalesce as though they were an actual organization. But for the Tea Party Patriots and such that reflect professional lobbying groups, I like to say that “I’m a Tea Party advocate”, rather than claiming its membership.
Oddly enough, the only third party that has ever substantially won anything is the Tea Party, because they are the only group that has used the only strategy that *can* succeed.
Most third parties just run a presidential candidate. Even if they were to win, which they can’t, they have no supporters in Washington and would be made to look so horrible that they might as well resign.
A far more effective way for a third party is to run from the bottom up, getting congressmen and eventually senators, until they are powerful enough to get “marginal” control in the house and eventually the senate.
But the most effective way is what the Tea Party has done, and it is hugely successful. They already have a lot of support in the Republican party, so they are trying to earn a majority and eventually take over the leadership.
And they are well on the way to doing so.
Right now, if they were a separate party, they would have perhaps 75 or more congressmen, and half a dozen senators. They have reached a point where the leadership knows that every time it acts in opposition to them, some leaders are going to be replaced in the next primaries.
Assuming the Tea Party keeps up the momentum, in the next election, the Republicans will control both the house and the senate, and the RINOs, especially in the senate, will find themselves significantly marginalized. Not completely gone, but not able to stab the conservatives in the back anymore.
The house leadership is unlikely to make it through another term as the leadership. And once conservatives control the leadership, they are going to stay in control.
Then the election after that, once the remaining RINOs, if any, are deposed, there is going to be fireworks, with the first really conservative president in over a hundred years.
So, the bottom line is a third party is for Democrats. Let them waste time and resources and maybe split their party. The Tea Party is so close to victory in the Republican party that they can taste it.
Yep, the TP needs to continue to do what it’s doing, elect like minded republicans, get a majority, and kick out the GOPe from the “leadership”.
I would be good with ridding the GOP of rinos. They could get together with the least crazy Rats and form the moderate third path.
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