Posted on 10/08/2013 10:04:36 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
Craig Kimbrel is supposedly the heir to Mariano Rivera. In his postseason career as closer, Rivera recorded 27 appearances of 2+ innings.
Uribe bunted two balls foul, ... and then tomahawked a high fastball from David Carpenter into left-field stands for a shocking two-run homer ....
Note that I wrote "David Carpenter" and not "Craig Kimbrel."
The Braves had to win this game. Lose, and they go home. Somehow they lost -- in the late innings, no less -- without using the most dominant relief pitcher in the game.
The sad thing is, Gonzalez apparently didn't even think of using Kimbrel for two innings. "I think six outs isn't something we were even talking about in the dugout," he said after the game.
But whats the difference between four outs and six outs? Six pitches? Ten pitches? And that doesnt even factor in that the Dodgers had the 5-6-7 hitters due up in the eighth and the 8-9-1 hitters up in the ninth.
So instead you lost a game with a guy who had a 6.07 ERA last year for the Houston Astros.
... ".. I want the ball." We'll see if Kimbrel confirms that, but even if he didn't say that, his look of disgust, standing there with his hands on his hips, will haunt Braves fans all winter.
This should be covered in Managing 101. ... Who cares if it's the seventh inning or the eighth inning or the ninth. I'd rather lose with Carpenter in the ninth inning or the 10th inning or whenever ...
Look, managing your bullpen in a structured manner in the regular season is one thing.
October is not the regular season.
Fredi Gonzalez didn't think the best reliever in the game can get six outs.
He ended up getting none.
(Excerpt) Read more at espn.go.com ...
In the Grady_Little-Pedro-AaronBoone_HR game 7, Mariano went 3 innings, 48 pitches, facing 11 batters.
Which game did he enter in the 7th inning ?
2003 Mariano game log
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5400/gamelog;_ylt=AhWWGVuVWCKXip1phgyWe2CFCLcF?year=2003
2003 game 7 vs Sox, boxscore
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=231016110
The Braves, The Buffalo Bills of Baseball.
Good luck with the Upton Bros in your outfield for the next 7 years
I amso tickedat Fredi right now that i cant see straight
We need a new manager! One with fire in his belly
Red Sox fan here-—you just ruined my day.
Grady Little-—the stuff of nightmares.
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The Braves were looking for an heir to Bobby Cox. What they got was an heir to Bobby Cox. Best regular season record in the NL. Bumped in the first round.
Oakland goes with Dan Straily, rookie RHP today ... he’s been excellent in his last 6 starts. Has not pitched in 13 days.
Is Verlander available out of the pen for DET in an emergency today for a few innings?
The Dodgers won DESPITE Belisario! Uribe is the LION KING!
Mears, who is Grady_Little?
Red Sox (RHP Jake Peavy) @ Rays (RHP Jeremy Hellickson) 8:37 pm ET
If Rays are going with Price in game 5, LHP Moore and RHP Archer are both available out the pen today. Hellickson was HORRIBLE in September.
commentary from “eric mvan”:
“Hellickson’s season breaks down neatly into four chunks.
First, an absolutely bipolar phase of 14 starts, four great, ten awful: game scores of 71 (against us) and 76 back-to-back in his 2nd and 3rd starts, and 69 in each of his 10th and 13th starts, but 21 to 46 in the others. Overall ERA, 5.67.
Next, a 7 game stretch with a 2.07 ERA. That one started against us.
Then a 6 game stretch with a 9.00 ERA. His best game score in this stretch, 44, is worse than his worst in the previous, 49.
Finally, September, with a very good start against the Angels, a meh one against us, and bad ones against the Rangers and Blue Jays. His ERA as a starter was 5.50, so this may be the same as phase 1.
That they’re going with him suggests that they have some saberemtric reasons why they think he matches up well against us.
I have to do some errands, but when I get back I’ll try to run the components and BABIP luck analyses on those stretches (including separating out the good from the bad of the bipolar phases to see if they match the good and bad stretches) and maybe even look at some pitch/fx data.”
http://forum.soxprospects.com/thread/1320/red-rays-alds-game-thread
“It seems to me that the Rays could well start Hellickson and dump him for Moore at some point early in the game to turn the entire Redsox lineup around. The Redsox are designed for platooning in order to optimize performance. This approach can be used against them in this instance and I bet it will. They hopefully put up some good numbers against Hellickson early.”
Jose Lobaton of the Rays had Koji Uehara of the Red Sox stunned with disbelief. It was an amazing hit and finish of the game.
As far as the Braves are concerned, the second youngest team in the playoffs, the future looks good considering they won over ninety games this year with four of their top pitchers injured and carrying two regulars with under .200 batting averages. It's hard to imagine the Braves luck not being a lot better next year.
Ha Ha Atlanta!! I didn’t want to see the Dodgers win in particular but I was willing to pay ggod money to the Atlana bums kicked out of post season contention!
ALDS and NLDS ping
JP Howell and Chris Withrow have done better.
Thanks for your expertise-—keep me updated.
Sigh !!!!
“Perhaps. But it doesnt feel good at this moment. This was the Red Sox first postseason walkoff loss since the Aaron Boone/Grady Little game of 2003.
Gulp.” (Dan Shaugnessy-Globe)
¡Mauro speaks!
Right, 'cuz no other teams have young or injured players.
We'll see you next Choptober.
Like Hanley said, Fredi was never in the big leagues, and it shows in his decisions .
I think the Dodger players respect Mattingly because he's been in their shoes and has that to back his words. He makes mistakes with pitchers though but the team wins in spite of that.
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