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and from the first link sent to me:
Mongol horsemen. Intense warfare is the evolutionary driver of large complex societies, according to a new mathematical model whose findings accurately match those of the historical record in the ancient world. (Image courtesy National Institute for Mathematical and Biological Synthesis)

Mongol horsemen. Intense warfare is the evolutionary driver of large complex societies, according to a new mathematical model whose findings accurately match those of the historical record in the ancient world. (Image courtesy National Institute for Mathematical and Biological Synthesis)

1 posted on 09/28/2013 10:44:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

For later


5 posted on 09/28/2013 10:55:30 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: SunkenCiv

OK, now who wins the “Big One” and what is left?


6 posted on 09/28/2013 10:55:53 AM PDT by capt B
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To: SunkenCiv

On the two maps, the data and simulation are different for Great Britain and for Northern Europe.

Anybody know how to get inside this model, and learn the answer about those differences?


7 posted on 09/28/2013 11:06:12 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: SunkenCiv
Intense warfare is the evolutionary driver of large complex societies

Might be bad news for anyone hoping to find advanced but benign civilizations out there among the stars.

"No model is correct. Some are useful." - George E.P. Box
So there's that.

10 posted on 09/28/2013 11:30:04 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: SunkenCiv

Wars cause a concentration of wealth and power for those who wage the wars and provide the weapons etc to fight them.


12 posted on 09/28/2013 11:48:18 AM PDT by grania
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To: SunkenCiv

Not new, Asimov and others wrote about this in SciFi decades ago.


13 posted on 09/28/2013 11:57:45 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Math explains history??

Math is pure logic - by itself it’s an empty vessel. Its use in a model restricts the results to logical consequences. But the crucial aspect of a model are its assumptions about, in this case, human behavior under various conditions and the conditions themselves

Given the unpredictability of human behavior and conditions I don’t see these models getting very far.


15 posted on 09/28/2013 12:07:37 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: SunkenCiv

Makes sense. Command and control ICS/NIMS - span of command - separation of functions into operations, planning, logistics, financing all those top down basic organizational models that fit the military and emergency response are the foundational blocks for effectively mobilizing a society to accomplish something together.


19 posted on 09/28/2013 1:35:24 PM PDT by marsh2
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