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1 posted on 09/27/2013 11:33:36 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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2 posted on 09/27/2013 11:48:50 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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Very interesting, thanks for posting.


3 posted on 09/27/2013 11:55:20 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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Tank porn!

Panther tank with "IR Solution A":


4 posted on 09/28/2013 12:02:08 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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very interesting post, thanks. ;-)

5 posted on 09/28/2013 12:11:35 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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When UK and US tanks can go long distances and the Panther can cover 150 km before something breaks down, that’s a pretty big weakness.


6 posted on 09/28/2013 12:12:20 AM PDT by GeronL
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Fantastic find! I was always curious about the French experience with the Panther.


7 posted on 09/28/2013 12:33:07 AM PDT by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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Excellent article! Thanks for sending it out..


9 posted on 09/28/2013 2:16:41 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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My uncle who went all through the Bulge and more, said the Panzer was to be horrify-ably feared. He only encountered a few, and they would blow the sh*t out of a Sherman head on with the deepest Sherman armor. A side shot was instant death, he said the main objective was to NEVER be caught on the flanks by a Panzer.

Thankfully, he explained, he had only encountered a few, and the Panzers were used to move troops up where he was (they would hide behind the Panzers). But shots on the Panzers from the Sherman were pitiful.

I am no historian, so I cannot totally vouch for this recollection. I am sure other Freepers have more statistics.


10 posted on 09/28/2013 3:04:31 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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Great reading. Thank you.


12 posted on 09/28/2013 3:19:14 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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Son was a tanker in Iraq invasion, so I found this article to be interesting. Never saw this site before either. Thanks for the post.


14 posted on 09/28/2013 3:23:36 AM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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I’ve seen the Panther and Tiger up close and personal at the George Patton museum at Ft. Knox Kentucky. They are both beautiful machines, especially the Tiger.


15 posted on 09/28/2013 3:28:43 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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16 posted on 09/28/2013 3:30:36 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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The Krauts should have stuck with the Mk IV. Easier to build in quantity and to maintain.


17 posted on 09/28/2013 3:49:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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The French replaced the transmissions to give the Panther’s high speed reverse. :^)

Was to the Panther that had the excruciatingly slow turret? The Shermans could maneuver to the side of the Panthers and shoot for the vulnerable sides before the Germans could bring their gun to bear.


18 posted on 09/28/2013 4:15:49 AM PDT by Vinnie
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Very Interesting, thanks

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


19 posted on 09/28/2013 5:23:03 AM PDT by alfa6
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Former tank platoon leader here, ARNG, served in the mid-80's.

Loved that article. Great post! ;)

Sauron

22 posted on 09/28/2013 6:42:48 AM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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Thanks.

I had a buddy who was a tank crew member in the invasion of Normandy. He related to me that, while he was told his tank was the best in the world, it did not compare to the Panther. Well, yes and no. If you were up against a Panther, one on one, in a Sherman, especially in the open field and at a distance, the Panther was definitely superior. But, given its costliness, weight, maintenance requirements, and other factors, how many Panthers were available to the Germans at the times and places when they would be decisive? When there were tank battles, the differences in sheer numbers, maneuverability and dependability of the Shermans were its advantage.

As to which overall strategy was better - larger numbers of medium tanks (M4s) or smaller numbers of a mix of heavy tanks (Panthers) and medium tanks (Mark IIIs and IVs), I’ll leave for others. However, in the attack, the sacrifice of numbers for having some heavy tanks in the mix has its argument. On the eastern front, when the Germans were on the offense, they would use the Panthers very well as the spearhead of an attack, with Mark IIIs and IVs coming in the second wave for the purpose of penetration and exploitation of the breach of the enemy’s front line.

All things considered, I think the T-34 was the best tank of WWII.


23 posted on 09/28/2013 6:46:08 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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Jersey, thank you for posting this article


27 posted on 09/28/2013 9:08:24 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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bookmark for later, thanks.


36 posted on 10/02/2013 12:47:39 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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