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Imagine how much better they'd work if you could put your 12.4% Social Security "contribution" into your 401k.
1 posted on 09/07/2013 6:39:30 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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2 posted on 09/07/2013 6:40:26 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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I think the goal is to do the reverse, steal all the 401K money and prop up social security.


3 posted on 09/07/2013 6:41:07 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Time to confiscate those evil 401(k)s.


4 posted on 09/07/2013 6:41:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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...wealth inequality.

I know exactly where this is going.

5 posted on 09/07/2013 6:42:23 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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BS

Most workers failing the 401k plans.


6 posted on 09/07/2013 6:42:26 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.” John Wayne)
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Just because higher earners are able to leverage more benefits from 401K’s does not mean pensions are better investment instruments than 401k’s for the average worker.


7 posted on 09/07/2013 6:44:04 PM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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contradictory.

if the accounts are causing a measurable “wealth disparity,” then people are certainly saving enough money to help their retirements

since the article does not make any other sense, our “propaganda alarm” is emitting a high pitched warble /..


10 posted on 09/07/2013 6:49:35 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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Great. First we get the scare tactics of how our 401(k)s are failing us. Next, we will be told how the government will do a much better job running our 401(k) investments than our current private investors. And next thing you know, our 401(k) funds will hold the same value as our current Social Security Trust Fund.

No thanks, keep your damn hands off my money. I'll decide what's best for me.

11 posted on 09/07/2013 6:50:02 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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Are we being setup for the grab?


12 posted on 09/07/2013 6:53:32 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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Imagine how much better they'd work if you could put your 12.4% Social Security "contribution" into your 401k.

What the hell are you trying to do? End the cycle of poverty in this country? Have people actually build up an inheritance that they can pass down to their family when they die? Don't be such a hater. Big Brother knows what's best.

13 posted on 09/07/2013 6:54:20 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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Poland Confiscates Half Of Private Pension Funds To “Cut” Sovereign Debt Load...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-06/poland-confiscates-half-private-pension-funds-cut-sovereign-debt-load

(I left mine at it’s peak, several years ago, and took the penalty. No regrets. No worries.)


14 posted on 09/07/2013 6:57:20 PM PDT by PGalt
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They should allow 401k plans, both employer provided and individual, the option of converting all funds to a regular savings account every 5 years. Remove the 10% early retirement penalty and offer a flat 15% tax rate and you’d see over 6 trillion in 401k balances convert providing a tax windfall for the government and a huge savings for retirees.


15 posted on 09/07/2013 6:57:50 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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401s not making it? No kidding. NO growth in the economy, no return on investments.

Rate of return on stocks = inflation + dividend yield + GDP


17 posted on 09/07/2013 6:58:40 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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Here it comes

We now are going to start hearing a lot more of these type of stories and “studies” in the coming months


18 posted on 09/07/2013 6:59:02 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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The 401k was a great thing. The problem is convincing younger workers to utilize it to the max and not borrow against it.


19 posted on 09/07/2013 7:06:31 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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“You didn’t build that!”


22 posted on 09/07/2013 7:15:48 PM PDT by Mark (Donate to FreeRepublic now.)
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Hegelian dialectic at work.

1) The statist establishment creates a crisis by mis-educating the workers for decades.

2) Most workers won’t have any idea of how to calculate their retirement needs (they weren’t taught math or econ. in the publik skools).

3) In comes the “Government Family” on a white horse to save the day.

4) The ‘rich’ who were driven by the ‘perverted profit motive’ to screw the poor, will now have to ‘pay their fair share’. IRAs and 401K’s will be looted to pay for the righteous ignoramuses who voted for a free lunch. Many of them will use their benefits to buy drugs or enter strip clubs.

5) The rest is obvious. USA becomes Peron’s Argentina (run by Evita Clinton), or worse.

Baaaaaaa - Sheeple - Baaaaaaaa.


28 posted on 09/07/2013 7:29:01 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Impeach We Much!)
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One might want to investigate what the ridiculous zero percent interest rate is doing to the 401k if your money isn’t growing you don’t have the benefit of compound interest and your money does not grow enough to provide a retirement income. It is just like Social Security which is also tied to a ridiculous interest rate, among other things, like not having the money go into a trust fund for SS recipients and instead being spent in the general fund where it cannot grow. The entire system has been corrupted by the Fed, Congress, and who knows what else.


29 posted on 09/07/2013 7:29:21 PM PDT by wita
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The report from the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal-leaning public policy think-tank,

No surprises here.

32 posted on 09/07/2013 7:33:27 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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This is CBS BS. I am a worker and my IRA which I started at 27, has enabled me to become financially independent, even though I have inherited almost nothing.

Now they wanf to steal my IRA to “help” me. Right.


37 posted on 09/07/2013 7:51:38 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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