Germany gives 'third gender' option on birth certificates

MSN.com ^ | August 17, 2013 | staff reporter

[Daffynition]

German parents will no longer be legally obliged to register their newborn child as male or female, and will instead be officially allowed to assign the baby a “third gender” if the sex cannot be clearly identified at birth.

The new law will come into force on November 1, on the back of a constitutional court decision which states that as long as a person “deeply feels” that they belong to a certain gender, they have a personal right to choose how they legally identify themselves.

[KosmicKitty]

I have a friend who used to work at a big local hospital. He said they got a kid born every year or two where the gender was unknown. The doctors all pushed for surgery immediately to correct the issue.

(And this is blue state Connecticut)

So, I’m going to assume that the medical community, at least for now, believes in fixing things right away

[KosmicKitty]

Also,

If that happened to one of my kids, it would be fix it and forget it.

If it is done early, the kid won’t ever know anything else. Might be the best for them.

[Daffynition]

Ladyboys!

[MrEdd]

Is it the doctor making the call on the birth certificate, or the parent?

[dfwgator]

"I'm as happy as a little girl."

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

as long as a person “deeply feels” that they belong to a certain gender, they have a personal right to choose how they legally identify themselves.

You are what you feel. If I've learned anything from watching Disney, it's that you can go anywhere in your imagination.

[Tax-chick]

In the U.S., parents fill out the Vital Stats forms.

[Daffynition]

LOL!

[Rodamala]

There is a Freeper who will always comment on the misuse of the words "gender" and "sex" as nouns... rightly so.

You see, gender is related to language, sex is related to variation within a species for the purposes of reproduction.

sex [seks]

noun

1 : either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in
    many species and that are distinguished respectively as
    female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive
    organs and structures

Whereas...

gen·der [ˈjen-dər]

noun

1  a : a subclass within a grammatical class (as noun, pronoun,
    adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but
    also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (as shape,
    social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines
    agreement with and selection of other words or grammatical
    forms

    b : membership of a word or a grammatical form in such a
    subclass

    c : an inflectional form showing membership in such a subclass

[Rodamala]

Der
Die
Das

[Daffynition]

[Daffynition]

I blame the hermaphrodites. Maybe the author is a hermaphrodite?

[ReformationFan]

True.

[MrEdd]

My children were born in Oklahoma.
The forms were typed by the hospitals and we just suplied our names and the children’s names.

[Tax-chick]

I had four children in Oklahoma. I filled out a form, the vital-stats person typed it, and I approved it. In the present “climate,” if I’d insisted on “3rd Gender” for a child who was obviously male or female, it would be “hateful” for anyone, including a doctor, to disagree.

Anyway, this article not talking about the U.S.

[Red6]

They're finished. But then again, the same disease is afflicting all Western nations, simply to varying degrees.

Western society is decedent and in decay. To a large degree, the radical Islamist isn't even wrong in his analysis of the Western value system which is purely hedonistic and materialistic for 80% of the population. Social systems, globalization, secularization (borne in socialism), urbanization have led to the loss of national identities, the decay of the nuclear family, true morals. It can't be stopped anymore, and while the US is regarded as a culprit by many abroad, she will herself be consumed by these forces and is by no means in control.

The problem with the decay we face in the West is that it is culturally inculcated and reinforced through social systems and tax codes as well as feeds on itself in the arts and media. Stories such as these should be no surprise, as they are the natural outcome of a new paradigm that has established itself. Related to this is the concept of the childless or one child couple. Truth is, no organism, religion, nation, culture, race... can survive without reproducing and it is part of the definition of life itself: replication - reproduction. However, in Western societies you see the child being a plaque, a scourge for those afflicted by this nuisance that usually is a consequence of some accident or failure in contraceptive. They cost money, limit ones career flexibility and social life, they commit one to another person for life, they cause stress, they make a woman appear “fat” and pregnancy is even painful... this is a world view where a social retirement system has removed the direct connection between ones own future in old age and the child (just 80 years ago the child had a high value), where the child has no higher/deeper value than a frog because God has been killed off.

Sure- why now? And in the US we now basically leave it up to everyone to self identify what sex they are. If I wanted to go to a female bathroom because I feel like a woman today, who is to tell me otherwise?