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.32 ACP FMJ versus .32 ACP JHP

Posted on 07/31/2013 12:45:30 PM PDT by 1rudeboy

So I know a guy who knows a guy who owns a Walther PPK. He's asking whether to load FMJ or JHP, purely for self-defense. It's not his primary weapon . . . he just wants to know what to keep in the magazines.


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To: carriage_hill

So the doc was a little late to the party?

Sorry, but I’m LOL here. I know whatever went down in ‘74 had to have really sucked, but that reaction in ‘04 is funny!


61 posted on 07/31/2013 2:13:15 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

My first gun was a Rossi 38 special. That was a fun gun :)


62 posted on 07/31/2013 2:21:05 PM PDT by k4gypsyrose
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To: 1rudeboy

I have a couple 380s and a 32 ACP Tomcat. I use DRT Ammo on all three. Plus I use it in one 9mm and a 45 ACP It’s a jacketed hollow point surrounding a compressed powder material that, per the manufacturer creates a horrific wound channel.

Heres a link to several calibers of DRTs compare to other rounds like Speer Gold Dot...In many of the cases the Gold dot penetrates the 17” ballistic gel completely in one channel. Then the DRTs are shown. You’d be amazed at the internal damage possible.

http://drtammo.com/online-media/

Dynamic Research Technologies

It’s kinda pricey but if you really want significant internal damage, this ammo is it.


63 posted on 07/31/2013 2:22:48 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: FreedomPoster

Hah; made me break out laughing, too. Until several nurses, more doctors, a crash cart and a gurney showed-up in the exam room, and they were calling police to report a shooting. The x-ray dept tech was jumping up and down and yelling for help for me. Luckily, I had the 1974 x-ray and South Miami Hospital letter along in a folder, to prove it was what I said it was: an old wound. The PD brought in a Sgt and Lt to sort out the chaos; I think there were 10-12 LEOs there, eventually. I finally got the epidural shot, and pain meds for the back injury I came there for, initially.


64 posted on 07/31/2013 2:32:14 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Gaffer

I love that their company initials also stand for Dead Right There.


65 posted on 07/31/2013 2:42:53 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: carriage_hill

Just damn, it must have been a slow night for the local PD.


66 posted on 07/31/2013 2:43:44 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Tenacious 1

.32 isn’t powerful enough to get the best use out of a hollowpoint. That’s why FMJ is recommended for lower power rounds:

http://www.brassfetcher.com/32ACP/32ACP%20Recommendations.pdf


67 posted on 07/31/2013 2:53:07 PM PDT by sevlex
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To: FreedomPoster

There were local LEOs, Regional LEOs and a PA State Police unit on the scene, and I had to explain it so many times, I was exhausted from so many questioners. Once they saw the original x-ray and SMH letter, it was resolved after 2 docs verified it was an old wound/scar. I was also CCW, and they all wanted to handle my Kimber 1911 .45 ACP. I made a couple new friends on the local PD force.


68 posted on 07/31/2013 2:58:55 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

>>.32 ACP seems like a bit of overkill for self defense. You might want to consider switching to .25 ACP, or even .22 LR to avoid the recoil.<<

You left off the sarcasm tag.


69 posted on 07/31/2013 3:09:56 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: B4Ranch

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70 posted on 07/31/2013 3:34:45 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (</sarcasm>)
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To: FreedomPoster

So e very serious ammo


71 posted on 07/31/2013 3:54:44 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: sevlex
Factory hollowpoints do not generally penetrate deeply enough to be counted on to incapacitate an attacker - From Fletcher Ballistics

HOLY PEE SHOOTER! That concerns me if I am counting on a .32 for personal self defense. I have female family members that carry .32 and .380 because they are small and manageable (better than nothing).

72 posted on 07/31/2013 4:55:31 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
.32 ACP seems like a bit of overkill for self defense. You might want to consider switching to .25 ACP, or even .22 LR to avoid the recoil.

Very Funny. I'm not sure all will get that.

73 posted on 07/31/2013 4:59:52 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
For defense a .38 5 shot hammerless snubby is perfect. Practically zero maintenance. It’s not a fun gun to shoot on weekends.

You and I think alike. My primary carry is a Taurus .357 hammerless snubby loaded with .38 P+ hollowpoints. I have two holsters, a belly band and pockets that it always fits nice in no matter what I want to wear. When it gets cold enough for sweatshirts and jackets, I go with the .45 XD Compact. There is only one holster for that beast. lol

I have always recommended the hammerless snubby for everyday carry and especially for women. Won't hang up on clothes, is always DOA, has no safety to worry about and is supremely reliable (will never jamb). If it doesn't go bang, pull the trigger again. It's also low maintenance and easy to load and unload. They can also be found pretty cost effectively.

As you said, they aren't sexy guns. But they sure are practical.

74 posted on 07/31/2013 5:10:16 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: justlurking; 1rudeboy
JHP. FMJ's are more likely to over-penetrate the target, endangering everyone and everything behind your target.

I'll differ with that a little. That "common wisdom" certainly applies to 9mm, .45 etc pistols.

With marginal rounds like .25, ,32 and even .380 it may be best to go for all the penetration you can get. Especially if your adversary may be wearing heavy clothing. Hard to imagine those rounds over-penetrating.

Before I turned in all my stuff, I had a .380 Makarov that grouped FMJ and JHP equally enough at handshaking distance. Every other one and routine double taps seemed prudent with that pistol.

Just my opinion.

75 posted on 07/31/2013 5:14:14 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: elcid1970
Anyone know about combat shooting from in or around a stopped vehicle or from a moving one?

I heard that question asked of an instructor once. His answer, "Never shoot and drive. Do one or the other. Either you are fleeing or fighting. Use the car for cover and be shooting. Or use the car for flight and be leaving."

76 posted on 07/31/2013 5:15:22 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: Tenacious 1

Also it takes a long long time for the springs in the magazines to wear out.


77 posted on 07/31/2013 5:19:45 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Oberon; 1rudeboy

What you said...


78 posted on 07/31/2013 5:24:35 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Also it takes a long long time for the springs in the magazines to wear out.

LOL. On the other hand, your snubby and mine might be a little different after all.

79 posted on 07/31/2013 5:26:10 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: carriage_hill

Ah, so some lasting good came of a PITA incident, on that last.


80 posted on 07/31/2013 5:28:39 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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