Posted on 07/31/2013 12:02:01 PM PDT by Kartographer
Two EMP experts told Secrets that the EMP flashed through earth's typical orbit around the sun about two weeks before the planet got there.
"The world escaped an EMP catastrophe," said Henry Cooper, who lead strategic arms negotiations with the Soviet Union under President Reagan, and who now heads High Frontier, a group pushing for missile defense.
"There had been a near-miss about two weeks ago, a Carrington-class coronal mass ejection crossed the orbit of the Earth and basically just missed us," said Peter Vincent Pry, who served on the Congressional EMP Threat Commission from 2001-2008. He was referring to the 1859 EMP named after astronomer Richard Carrington that melted telegraph lines in Europe and North America.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
If some kind of organization isn’t in place within two years we’ll be back to a feudal system.
Approximately 22.4 million miles.
Average earth distance to the Sun is 93 million miles. So the circumference of the Earth's orbit is 93,000,000 * 2 * pi = 585.3 million miles. Divide by 365.25 and Earth travels approximately 1.6 million miles per day. So 14 days of that gives the approximation.
A good fifth grade math/science question.
I think you copied that article of mine when I first put it on. If you don’t have it, I can direct you by link where it is on Survival Podcast to copy it from there. It just flips me out when people don’t have the right information.
I couldn’t believe those two men on that program didn’t know better - couldn’t believe they thought One Second After was the gospel truth. At the time I read that, I thought that, too, then I educated myself.
We have locals here who are total worshippers of James Wesley COMMA Rawles...
The commission centered on attack EMPs, so that information comes from that report.
Yes, cars will run, however that is the least of the problems since gasoline and every commodity people need to live will be in short supply first and then there will be none. That's another reason why I prep. That would be like the hurricane coming through my town like it has before and taken out power and all the food and gas had been bought up. That is the way it would be for a very long time. I am reminded of that when each hurricane comes through.
The first thing I notice when power goes off in the whole town, is the total silence. Not one background noise. Sure, some say they would welcome that, but it is discomforting when that quiet goes on day after day unless you have a way to create “comfort” noise. I have a battery portable digital TV so I can find out what is happening around me. If you haven't experienced damage over a hundred miles around you - you can't find out squat if you don't have a way to find out if your area is really damaged or if the utilities are okay to use, etc.. Those involved can't see what has happened if they have no working TV.
After Ike went through, due to the portable battery TV, I could see the terrible damage done to Galveston, to Texas City, to League City, to Houston, and to my area. Seeing what is out there allows one to adjust to it faster.
“My goal is to survive two growing seasons.”
I would hope that is enough time for some type of recovery. I think of it in terms of one day and the next day and the next, etc.
“We have locals here who are total worshippers of James Wesley COMMA Rawles...”
I never did buy any of his books. I don’t plan to have an army with machine guns.
Can’t we have a tax that would prevent this kind of thing from happening?
“It is from scientists in that field reporting together how it really is.”
Who are you talking to? I probably know them. I am quite sure they are not telling you what you think they are telling you.
There are all sorts of transients that can occur in power distribution that can burn things out. It’s possible that a solar flare could induce this sort of secondary failure, but no energy from a solar flare can propagate across a transformer - it’s essentially DC - it doesn’t pass through.
I thought it was when Crystal and Alexis had a cat fight in the swimming pool.
God laughs at our modern high tech “security”.
Maybe he’ll knock us down a notch.
What is the typical duration of a large flare?
“What is the typical duration of a large flare?”
I have no idea.
I thought with King Bama we are already there.
Solar flare near miss.
We put a man on the moon. We can fix our grid.
True, I was surprised that two people independently came as close as we did. That's what I meant by "close enough for government work". I'll also stipulate that my calculation included a bunch of simplifying assumptions like 93*10^6 is a constant distance from earth to sun, that makes our orbit a circle which is nor true but makes the circumference calculation much simpler. Also assumed that the year is 365¼ days of 24 hours each which again is a simplification and fairly close.
What came as no surprise was the hyperventilation about a"NEAR MISS" which turned out to be thousands of earth diameters off target. To me a near miss would have taken out some communication satellites at 22,000 miles out.
What may prove to be a major problem would be the sun going into a phase where cronal mass ejections have replaced sun spots as normal events. If that proves to be true it's only a matter of time playing Russian roulette before we take a direct hit from such with an EMP to move us back several hundred years in the blink of an eye.
Regards,
GtG
PS I'm getting too old to worry much about things like this...
Not having decent contingency plans for an EMP (either Carrington or nuclear) is absolutely foolish.
Have you read about the Carrington event? The EM energy was so intense that it caused fires from telegraph transmission lines to telegraph offices. Sure weren't any elecric power grids back in 1859. Apply this to any form of wiring, and realize what the impact will be to general electronics, their hardware, software, and associated controls. If you are an engineer, (as I), then you will realize how this will impact any form of manufacturing that employs computer controls.
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