Posted on 07/31/2013 9:02:31 AM PDT by Errant
bump for later
I no longer expect a big break - just mini-busts and -booms in a continuation of the long, slow grind-down into Argentina we are currently undergoing. The America of 2023 will be unrecognizable to us today - but we won't likely have to suffer the shock of seeing it happen all at once.
From Youtube:
Published on Oct 24, 2012
survival expert and health guru, Blake Sawyer, argued that the United States will no longer be a viable place to live, and people should consider immigrating to locations in the less populated Southern Hemisphere. Whether through war, disease, famine, natural disasters, or ruthless government, he predicted that 95% of those who remain in the US will be dead in the next 5-15 years. America has been targeted by the "globalists" to be taken out, he added.
Sawyer noted that the United States ranks highest in violent crime, and that countries in the Southern Hemisphere are much more tranquil. In particular, he highlighted nations in the southern region of South America as being good choices for survivability, specifically Chile, Uruguay, Argentina, and Ecuador. "I...believe that the average American does not know that they're the frog in cold water, and they think they're OK, and they're now boiling," he declared.
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Anticipated disruptions include the following:
Clusters of natural disasters, patterns of apocalyptic planetary crises, or Earth Changes (tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, blizzards, solar storms, severe thunderstorms). A disaster caused by the activities of humankind (chemical spills, release of radioactive materials, nuclear or conventional war, oppressive governments). The general collapse of society caused by the shortage or unavailability of resources such as electricity, fuel, food, or water. Financial disruption or economic collapse (caused by monetary manipulation, hyperinflation, deflation, or depression). A global pandemic. Widespread chaos or some other unexplained apocalyptic event.
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Yeah. With such low bond rates many are into stocks to get the divIdends (nowhere else to go). Rising interest and bond rates would have an i¤pact ... when it really happens to any significant degree.
Are you stocking food, supplies, etc. or buying metals? I’m curious what most people are doing. We all know our economy will come crashing down - it is inevitable.
Pretty nuch we are expecting the same thing. A slow devolving into permanent depression and third world conditions over the next 3-5 years.
Expect food shortages, electricity only 8-12 hours per day or so expensive a lot of people will not be able to afford it, crime though the roof as desparate people do desparate things. If you live in the city you will be miserable.
If you can afford anything in the country buy it now. Stock up on food while its affordable and the means to protect it. Also medicine.
Preppers’ PING!!
You have 7 basic survival needs.
You have to be prepared for doing without external supplies of these things for 3 days, a week, a month, 3 months, etc,
before you are prepared for the “zombie apocalypse”.
Can you survive a 3 month job loss?
Here’s a good listen:
http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/episode-356-getting-started-from-zero-the-how-and-why
1) credit crunch = increased difficulty in obtaining loans
2) tight money = higher interest rates
3) monetary contraction = contraction of the supply of fiat money
These lead to crises:
1) bubbles bursting, such as real estate, banking, savings and loans, financial, energy.
2) increased bankruptcies, insolvencies, defaults, and failures, such as banks, large corporations, big cities, states.
3) crashes, panics and bank runs.
These are the start of the bust phase of the contraction phase of the boom-bust cycle caused by Keynesianism.
In the past, the market collapses were preceded by wild swings over periods of weeks or days before the crash. But nothing every repeats the same. This time the wild swings will happen in a period of seconds or minutes, and within a couple of hours it will all be ashes. Fundamentally, the collapse will be a black swan event that is non-predictable and outsized by definition.
BTTT for later...
Bump for later...
What will “adjust” is the government’s policies to take our wealth, guns and property. What will “adjust” is the government’s control and influence on the military to go against the people.
No, I’d rather see it collapse, soon. I think that’s the best chance patriots have of surviving and possibly rebuilding before foreign governments pounce on us.
I’m glad we both already live well below our means. That’ll help. For a while.
I sure hope I don’t have to shoot anyone. ;)
While we may not all agree on where the final delineation will be, or how bad it will get, I think the vast majority do agree worse times are coming.
"Two things in the universe are infinite, human stupidity and space, and I'm not sure about space" - Einstein, last century.
Certainly it doesn't have to be repeated again. We have the knowledge and technology to break the cycle. Will we? Hell no...
We'll use the knowledge and technology to ensure "great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be" - Yeshua Messiah, 2000 years ago.
Neither China nor the EU are doing well right now. Both are extremely shaky. The collapse could come in the form of the “perfect storm when the U.S. economy, the Chinese economy, and the EU economy all tank at the same time. That would produce a worldwide depression the likes of which has never been seen before, and the destruction to societies will be like nothing seen since the fall of the Roman Empire.
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