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Controversial JFK Documentary Theory: President Was Killed by Accidental Secret Service Shot
yahoo.com ^ | July 30, 2013 | Kimberly Potts |

Posted on 07/30/2013 10:20:03 PM PDT by grundle

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To: Boogieman

His motion, with elbows high and head flipping back is a classic acute reflex to spinal trauma.

I learned of it by reading the Wound Ballistics Review article on the Kennedy Assassination. The head flip alone was enough to spark thousands of conspiracy theories about the “grassy knoll”.


81 posted on 07/31/2013 8:06:40 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

My Mannlicher is in .30/06, but the action is smooth as butter. People used to make fun of it because when empty the magazine follower rattles if you shake the rifle. with rounds in the magazine, it doesn’t.


82 posted on 07/31/2013 8:12:26 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

If there were coherent advocates for conspiracy that could produce examinable proof rather than the dull contrarians who have nothing more than blurting out “Ain’t NO way, NO how Oswald kilt JFK and I ain’t a-believin’ nothin’ else” every time the subject comes up, I wouldn’t have to do this.

See, I’m not trying to convince the conspiracy yokels of anything. They’re a lost cause. I’m trying to keep them from poisoning the well to the uninitiated they’ve been lying to with their lunatic conspiracy theories going on fifty years.

If you have something to say, summon the courage to stand up and say it.


83 posted on 07/31/2013 8:59:17 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: fabian

In the interest of truth and justice, stay off juries please. If you get a jury duty summons, just walk in there and ask where the white people sit so they throw you out, okay? Thanks.


84 posted on 07/31/2013 9:12:26 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: Gadsden1st

“The Sea Will Tell” was a very interesting book.

Just curious, though...you think he is a liberal (most of whom are reprehensible in both your eyes and mine)and given his support of various people and things, that is reasonable.

Do you discount the truth because of the source? Can a liberal be right about anything?

And do you believe in a tenet of American justice, that every client deserves legal representation, or is it only “good” people deserve competent representation, and the rest deserve bottom of the barrel public defenders?

As a conservative (I presume from your Freepname)what are your thoughts on these things?


85 posted on 07/31/2013 9:13:25 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: Netz

I haven’t read his book, but I would find it difficult (but not impossible) to believe his viewpoint could go head to head with Bugliosi’s and come out on top.


86 posted on 07/31/2013 9:15:33 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: grundle

Uh, Wil, you missed one . . .

87 posted on 07/31/2013 9:20:45 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: Boogieman; Texas Fossil

When JFKs body was returned to DC that evening for the autopsy at Bethesda Naval Medical Center, US Attorney General RFK was not only present but actually a witness to that autopsy. Bobby Kennedy met the plane at Andrews AFB and stayed with his brothers body throughout the autopsy.

Jackie Kennedy decided that the autopsy should take place at Bethesda rather than Walter Reed Army Hospital because “Jack was a Navy man.”

Notice that Oliver Stone decided not to mention any of this in his execrable movie.

So, Texas Fossil, now what?


88 posted on 07/31/2013 9:37:46 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: grundle

The real truth must be close.


89 posted on 07/31/2013 9:39:23 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: rlmorel

1. I have no idea if he is a liberal and don’t care.

2. A liberal can be right about things and a conservative or libertarian can be wrong about things.

3. I think every client deserves the best possible defense and the “state” deserves the best possible prosecution. Unfortunately, I believe that rarely happens. I think our Judical system tends to be more favorable to the defense. I really don’t have a problem with that. Sure some scum bags will get a pass, but it is in the nature of scum bags that they will not learn and eventually other scum bags or the Justice system will take care of them.

It is a shame that some innocents may be injured along the way, but it seems that as a society, we are willing to put up with Collateral damage.

My comments about “The Sea Shall Tell” are based completely on the book HE wrote and the facts he presented in HIS book. I enjoyed the book very much.

She was guilty. So was Simpson. So was Casey Anthony. Guilty people go free all the time.

I said he was a great lawyer. That does not mean I believe him to be the Second Comming and to be infallable in everything he says.


90 posted on 07/31/2013 9:47:58 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: The KG9 Kid

Easily duped and brainwashed...your type of person. I sort of feel sorry for you. Either that or you an outright manipulator knowing full well what you are doing.


91 posted on 07/31/2013 9:49:48 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: The KG9 Kid

Pleading ignorance, did we have AR’s in ‘62?


92 posted on 07/31/2013 9:59:10 AM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: Netz
The first shot was just after the limo turned onto Elm but before it reached the road sign. However, the tree branch in Oswald's line of sight deflected it (across the plaza), leaving Kennedy and Connally clearly startled. The second shot hit Kennedy in the upper back-lower neck, and then the third shot struck him in the back of the head, but at an odd angle because the limo was still rounding Elm's gentle curve. Standing next to Oswald's perch (which is now enclosed with glass), the shots all line up perfectly.

There were no other shooters, and even if there had been one on the grassy knoll area (as conspiracy theorists claim), the bullet would have struck Kennedy in the SIDE of the head and downward because of the knoll's elevation, Elm's curve, and the acceleration of the limo.

And there was no possible way for anyone to be shooting up at him from the storm drains. Period.

93 posted on 07/31/2013 10:15:05 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

One thing that the NPS makes clear at the book depository exhibit is that Oswald had in fact issued some threats to the FBI Dallas office because he was ticked off that the agents had been harassing his wife. Along with being a commie, there’s his motive.


94 posted on 07/31/2013 10:16:49 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: fabian
I am not going to try and get through your brainwashing. Anyone who cannot see that he was obviously hit from the rear and then the front is blind as a bat. Sorry....just is a fact.

OK, Sherlock, have you ever been to Dealey Plaza and walked the site for yourself, especially Oswald's sniper perch? Have you ever watched the video in slow motion?

95 posted on 07/31/2013 10:19:09 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Riley
...but the shot wasn't as tough as it seems often made out to be, IMO.

That's right. Oswald had his rifle sighted in at a hundred, and was right on top of Kennedy as the limo turned onto Elm. the tree got in his way briefly, but after that, the shots were easy for a trained marksman. Oswald's kill zone really is tight, which the Zapruder film does not capture as the limo rounded the curve and then accelerated.

96 posted on 07/31/2013 10:29:11 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: grundle

I have heard that one, too. But I know, in my heart, it was really Jackie, and that the b@st@rd had it coming.


97 posted on 07/31/2013 10:30:54 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: chesty_puller
The Armalite "AR15" has been around since 1957, but ArmaLite sold its rights to Colt ("Colt's"), and the first Colt's AR15s were manufactured in December 1959. The USAF adopted it first as a US military rifle in 1962.

It's really a 1950s gun more than a 1960s gun.

98 posted on 07/31/2013 11:30:20 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Thanks


99 posted on 07/31/2013 12:14:40 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: Timber Rattler

there is so much obvious evidence for a coup and multiple shooters it is not even funny. Your question is a non sequitor. I am sorry you have lost so much of your commonsense...really I am.


100 posted on 07/31/2013 12:42:10 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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