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1 posted on 07/21/2013 2:30:21 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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Plato promoted the belief that the family should be completely deconstructed and its component parts used as tools of an omnipotent, leviathan state. This means that children will be taken from parents practically from birth, preventing the parent/child bonding. …
So the Commies got the idea from Plato. Wow; how unoriginal of them. Problem is, the family is the basic unit of society, and thus societies like this one proposed by Plato cannot exist without falling into chaos.
2 posted on 07/21/2013 2:40:55 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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Plato’s Utopia was satire. He was too smart to really believe that crap. Over time, the Sophists (akin to modern day liberals) removed the “sarcasm tag” and presented it as his real view.


3 posted on 07/21/2013 2:51:48 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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If this article is correct, in the end, the Progressives will execute everyone on welfare or disability.

Dats Wacist!

4 posted on 07/21/2013 2:56:25 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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6 posted on 07/21/2013 2:58:28 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Plato’s Republic is primarily an allegory for the soul, but the government set up inside does represent Plato’s (or Socrates’) conception of the ideal human society. Like all ideologues, he was laboring under the delusion that man is a perfectable being. The supreme ruler of his state was a “philosopher king” and was perfect in wisdom.

Whether Plato really believed his system would work or was just using it as a theoretical ideal is up to interpretation.

9 posted on 07/21/2013 3:40:05 PM PDT by JCCoolidge
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Just watched the short-lived TV series "Firefly" and movie "Serenity." No wonder the show was cancelled. It talked about this very thing, and actually espoused Christian values, the right route of living-out and making day to day choices, founded in Christian values. No government can truly take that.
13 posted on 07/21/2013 4:14:05 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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I used to be a Democrat, so I have some experience with how they think. Eventually, many of them realize that what they want is impossible with the present realities. Some of them become very bitter and decide that if they can’t have a utopian world or nation, then they will make sure their family members and friends are well taken-care of. This is most of the present Democrat party leaders. Some decide that their ideas must be forced on others. Those people always come to the same conclusion......there are too many people. They know all the ways to reduce the human population. They are quite insane. These two groups struggle for control of the Democrat party. The “take care of my own” Democrats are presently in power. They do enough to appease their insane eugenics rivals. Each side thinks they are using the other side, and I guess they are.


14 posted on 07/21/2013 6:10:47 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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