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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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To: sheikdetailfeather

Yeah. I venture to guess most people getting their heads pounded into the pavement after getting jumped would be emptying their gun with no second thought.


I would.

But I believe there was testimony about the gun jamming and some speculation that M may have had his hand wrapped around it so it doen’t cycle properly.


481 posted on 07/10/2013 7:49:39 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: don-o
MOM is using witness to tutor the jury

He is using the witness to frame and summarize his case for the jury...and I think it's working precisely as planned.

482 posted on 07/10/2013 7:50:02 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: cuban leaf

If I ever needed a defense attorney....and I sure hope I don’t....Mark O’Mara would be the one....(even though I doubt I could afford him after this trial)


483 posted on 07/10/2013 7:50:32 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: CAluvdubya

MOM asked for recess. Judge asked jury if they wanted one.
They said no.

IMO, they have made up their minds already.


484 posted on 07/10/2013 7:50:56 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: cuban leaf

Thong ? Is that what that was?


485 posted on 07/10/2013 7:51:11 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: lawdave

—since they were state actors they could be sued for deprivation of civil rights. —

Probably need to keep that one in mind(cough, cough)


486 posted on 07/10/2013 7:51:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: MinuteGal

Done, thanks for the link.


487 posted on 07/10/2013 7:51:22 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: hoosiermama; MinuteGal; FReepers; Patriots; FRiends; everyone; All
I just fired off a pithy one-liner to the Florida bar association....and I urge everyone to do the same, regarding Judge Debra Nelson.

Fla.Bar.Assn.@gmail.com

This is a freep!

Leni

488 posted on 07/10/2013 7:51:30 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Guenevere

MOM has a great case. I think the State is doing a better job because they have so little to work with....except a judge.


489 posted on 07/10/2013 7:52:26 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: NautiNurse

Amazing!


490 posted on 07/10/2013 7:52:53 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: viaveritasvita

bmfl

notes to self: see post 2600 day 21 vid of last 15 min
see RC’s posts 92 and 96 day 22
go back to day 21 and find 101’s graphic of battle behind scenes for Mr V3

Good morning to all


491 posted on 07/10/2013 7:53:01 AM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: onyx

What was the pithy one liner, and what is it to achieve?


492 posted on 07/10/2013 7:53:09 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

He’s saving those “Lucky Leopards” for closing arguments.


493 posted on 07/10/2013 7:53:34 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: CAluvdubya
I have an eye appt later and I'm thinking of changing it! LOL

As long as you won't go blind and can't see the trial, put off the eye appt. :o)

494 posted on 07/10/2013 7:53:34 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Uncle Chip

“West: There was a double level of security.

Judge: And I know any seven year old can learn the passwords and get into that because they do it all the time.

West: The FDLE had his phone for a year and they couldn’t do it”

BAWAHAHAHAHAH. . . .!!!!


495 posted on 07/10/2013 7:54:10 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: lawdave
in order to bring a federal civil rights action, the bad actor must be acting under color of state law.

But, that does not preculde a civil suit at the state level, does it?

496 posted on 07/10/2013 7:54:11 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Mouton

IMO, they have made up their minds already.


Probably when the prosecution rested.

I remember being on jury duty and not being allowed to talk about the case until we were released to deliberate. I can imagine this jury, when they are released, as soon as the door closes, all laughing about how the hell this ever made it to court. Except they probably won’t be laughing.

And imagine the holdout’s response. I remember that in one case I wanted an immediate vote so we could send a message to the ambulance chasing plaintif, but a few wanted to be “absolutely sure”. Same will happen here.

Nevertheless, if there are a couple who want to find guilty, imagine the grief they will get from the rest of the jurors. It will be pathetic if they cling to guilty.


497 posted on 07/10/2013 7:54:19 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: onyx; MinuteGal; All

Does anyone think it odd that the Florida Bar Association uses gmail?


498 posted on 07/10/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: PoloSec

Anyone else lose the video?


499 posted on 07/10/2013 7:54:28 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Marcella

Dang, I have a dentist appt and should leave now!
Change it, go, change it, go - this is rumbling in my mind!
lol

I am clearly addicted!


500 posted on 07/10/2013 7:54:43 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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