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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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To: sheikdetailfeather

Drumbeat. Pros opened door for TM athletic ability re: TM football experience.


1,281 posted on 07/10/2013 11:10:47 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: don-o

the judge knows it and it makin defense do the kapuki dance w/ testimony


1,282 posted on 07/10/2013 11:10:59 AM PDT by advertising guy (Phoenix...........where a prick in the butt ain't sexual.............it's a cactus)
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To: Nervous Tick

they are looking to see if Guy opened the door with his questions with court reporter


1,283 posted on 07/10/2013 11:11:20 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: fatima
I am fairly confident that West/MOM will not put GZ on the stand considering how the case has shaped up.

That said, they want to wait until the very last moment to make that decision.

1,284 posted on 07/10/2013 11:11:32 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: RummyChick

And what do Texans call threats like that? Potential for target practice.


1,285 posted on 07/10/2013 11:11:35 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: RummyChick

Of course Twitter won’t ban these creeps.


1,286 posted on 07/10/2013 11:11:37 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl
This sounds like a pretty egregious error by the judge.

I wonder if the defense has considered asking for her to be removed, which would essentially result in a mistrial-but decided against it because the case is otherwise going so well?

By now, they have to be pretty certain that they have solid avenues on appeal; but an acquittal knocks the socks off of winning an appeal.

1,287 posted on 07/10/2013 11:11:39 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: RetSignman
I guess maybe I was a little too subtle with what she is holding...no balanced scales.

She wants to use that sword to put Zimmerman's head on that tray. That's her brand of justice.

Ideally, she'd repeat that, ad nauseam, for any and all crazy a%% crackers that dare to defend themselves against the new chosen people.

1,288 posted on 07/10/2013 11:12:22 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

GZ will never make it in prison........except for the help of AB


1,289 posted on 07/10/2013 11:13:06 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Judge ruled that Guy opened the door because she just allowed witness to answer that question


1,290 posted on 07/10/2013 11:13:15 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Who is pressing this Judge? (as if we didn’t have a guess)
I’d like to see her phone records.


1,291 posted on 07/10/2013 11:13:21 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: RoosterRedux

Thanks.


1,292 posted on 07/10/2013 11:13:46 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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Judge: Over-ruled but move on to your next question.

??? What the hell kind of “over-ruled” ruling is that? A kinda/sorta wussy one?


1,293 posted on 07/10/2013 11:14:22 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Sporke

...but if he demands to testify, his attorneys have no choice but to put him on the stand. It’s not their choice.


Zimmerman has shown remarkable self control in this. It is pretty clear that he would probably cut off one of his own fingers if they told him it would seal his not-guilty verdict.

I think the judge tried to get him to crack and he didn’t. I’m projecting my own feelings a bit. I was in court representing myself to gain custody of my 12 year old daughter and was advised to show no emotion, no matter what. My ex’s attorney threw a tyrade in court and I just stood there, looking straight ahead, with my hands clasped over my manhood until she was finished. The judge, on several occasions, told her she was flirting with contempt.

I got custody. The attorney went berzerk.


1,294 posted on 07/10/2013 11:14:47 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: fatima

Put the camera on Baldo, bet he is having a fit as his aide de camp opened a door for defense.


1,295 posted on 07/10/2013 11:14:47 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: don-o

State has opened doors and Judge has slammed them back shut. It appears that she is bound and determined to drag the Prosecution herself over the finish line.


1,296 posted on 07/10/2013 11:14:49 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: XenaLee

because he had already answered the question


1,297 posted on 07/10/2013 11:15:23 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
they are looking to see if Guy opened the door with his questions with court reporter

He did and MOM stormed through it.

GZ had no choice but to defend himself.

1,298 posted on 07/10/2013 11:15:27 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Sporke

“That’s what Zimmerman SHOULD do, but if he demands to testify, his attorneys have no choice but to put him on the stand. It’s not their choice.”

Well he won’t “demand” to testify, despite the way the idiot left is collectively drooling in anticipation of that happening.


1,299 posted on 07/10/2013 11:15:49 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: machogirl

“I’d like to see her phone records.”

Can someone FOI what’s on her computer? On Corey’s?


1,300 posted on 07/10/2013 11:16:09 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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