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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile. Also visit our general discussion thread.
1 posted on 06/30/2013 4:07:24 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 06/30/2013 4:08:16 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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The p7 photo of a u-boat being attacked shows the attacking airplane had at least one of it’s landing gear down. My guess is it was to slow the plane down and allow for a better strafing run.


9 posted on 06/30/2013 4:53:32 AM PDT by fso301
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Erwin Harry De Spretter, subject of the p1 article about Nazi spies could have been given the death penalty but instead got 30 years.


10 posted on 06/30/2013 5:05:10 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; henkster; CougarGA7; colorado tanker; LS
By the way...
I happened to catch part of a "World War II from the Brits' Perspective" TV show last night, and for the first time ever saw a serious public recognition of some facts regarding the Japanese December 7, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor.

The narrator stated as facts the following:

  1. The Japanese fleet did not maintain 100% radio silence on its voyage to Hawaii.

  2. British Far-East intelligence intercepted and decoded 20 Japanese naval code messages.

  3. Brits concluded the target was Hawaii and so informed London.

  4. London did not pass it on to Washington -- no reason given.

  5. Lower level US naval intelligence also intercepted Japanese naval messages, but no warnings reached higher-ups in Washington.

None of the familiar US names were mentioned in this particular context: Joe Rochefort, Eddy Layton or Arthur McCollum.
But if this is correct, then those have to be the people who "knew but didn't tell".
Rochefort & Layton were in Hawaii, McCollum in DC.

Of course, we've debated this at great length, and established there is no documented "smoking gun" proving if Roosevelt himself knew in advance.

But it's most interesting to note how Brits are willing to claim they "knew but didn't tell," and say the same is true of "low level" US intelligence.

Considering the hew & cry raised in the past over similar suggestions, it'll be interesting to see if this one provokes comment.

15 posted on 06/30/2013 7:59:14 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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