Posted on 06/20/2013 12:51:25 PM PDT by Kevmo
Well, COOL. If LENR is real, it is about darn time they do something with it other than demos - like power a car or an aircraft.
More Globull Warming nonsense it looks like.......
I’m not sure what the future will be for LENR but...
It would seem that powering an aircraft is about the last thing on the list to do with LENR.
How about a house? A car? Even a satellite (in keeping with NASA’s former mission).
A satellite would be the right path. If LENR is scaleable, then houses, cars, water heaters, desalination, space stations, boats, trains, HVAC, electricity generation and aircraft would eventually all experience the economic disruption.
A water heater/boiler for a small building would be a great start for a real world test.
I still say that if they do come up with a LENR power aircraft, some folks will claim it’s plugged in, there are hidden batteries, or it was wound up before the test.
Not at all. This is precisely in the "thought mode" that DARPA, ARPA, and similar research organizations are chartered to pursue....very high risk but very high reward technology. I've seem some things a LOT "farther out" than LENR.
How about the following....a "hot air" LENR powered dirigible?? LENR generates electricity for prop drive, and the waste heat provides lift? WAY safer than H2 lift. Pretty much unlimited cruising time/range. Heavy-lift capability that needs no airports. Gigantically higher cargo capacity than any helicopter.
“How about the following....a “hot air” LENR powered dirigible??”
THIS configuration:
http://www.21stcentech.com/transportation-update-new-hybrid-air-vehicle/
looks like a candidate platform. Delete the solar cells, replace the helium bags with “hot gas” ones, and scale to pretty much any size.
You should both be aware that as of this Autumn a commercial 1MW Combined Heat and Power (CHP) Pilot Plant, that has already been certified for industrial (staff to look after it) use, will be running in Sweden as a Showcase:
http://hydrofusion.com/news/wanted-pilot-customer-for-ecat-1-mw-plant
You should further be aware that an improved version of technology has been tested by an independent group of international Scientists Universities and organisations. Their pre publication report is available from various sources such as Los Alamos Labs here:
http://xxx.lanl.gov/ftp/arxiv/papers/1305/1305.3913.pdf
And here at Cornell University Library
http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913
The report is still going through peer review with corrections and queries from peer reviewers before formal publication.
This picture gives you an idea of the current power output that the scientists from Sweden and Italy verified with the E-Cat HT:
http://b-i.forbesimg.com/markgibbs/files/2013/05/130520_ragone_04.png
There are plans for a more detailed 6 Month test of the of the latest version which is even more powerful.
Meanwhile the European Parliament is discussing LENR/Cold Fusion/The Fleischman-Pons effect:
http://www.enea.it/it/Ufficio-Bruxelles/documenti/eventi/new-advancements-on-the-fleischmann-pons-effect/agenda-pdf
And Dr. James Truchard: Chairman of National Instruments, the worlds biggest Scientific Instrument maker will be Key Note speaker at this years Cold Fusion Conference at Missouri University:
http://iccf18.research.missouri.edu/index.php
Lots of stuff happening now, get ready for a major US anouncement! :)
Imagine having a drone that only needs to land to change the bearings and get a lube job!
I think more about a "container ship" version about the size of the carrier Enterprise or larger. Direct from China to any major city. Probably with 100-1000 individual LENR reactors and gas cells. Massive redundancy. Much faster and probably much cheaper (and safer) than any cargo ship.
The dockworkers and port cities will hate it.
But your vision is also correct. It doesn't have to be rocketry or jet speeds to be useful aeronautically.
Assuming you can fly a plane with LENR you should be able to dispense with a good number of satellites.
While no one was looking we actually ran out of places to build ports for ocean going ships.
One solution was to run container trains day and night from Mexican ports to Indianapolis, and also convert the East Side airport (a major field) into a place for disgorging passengers on European super size airplanes. That would give Indy the position NYC has had for the last 4 centuries!
If you followed the I35 discussions on FR you probably thought they were going to run the lines to Kansas City ~ but since this system would replace current EAST COAST sites Indy would be needed to do the job. KCMO and KANKAN are simply too far West!
LENR solves a problem ~ we would no longer need as many ships.
NASA wants to demonstrate new ways to waste taxpayer money.
How about powering a night light for starters?
We looked further and found a dealer who sells in units of 100 and he wants $2.30 for each light.
Best price I could find on the net for a traditional incandescent candelabra light with same lumens rating was $1.07 each.
What this means is the price of LEDs is falling like a rock!
The power consumption of an LED is remarkably low ~ many of the experimental set ups should be able to light one up.
We'll hold you to this one ~ an LED on an LENR operating unit.
Actually, this might be a fairly good test for almost any power source ~ to wit: However you can do it convert your excess heat or photons to electricity sufficient to charge up a fast charge microminiature battery sufficiently to power a 1 ma LED for 1 min.
Even a Tokamak can't meet that standard!
I can spend a dollar to get a solar powered LED light which uses power from hot nuclear fusion.
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