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To: Impy
The problem is socialism and what is called "liberalism" not how Senators are elected.

O quite agree. But how exactly are we to make sure that our representatives represent us? Well, the FF's thought that if we elect the state reps for short terms, we could punish them for selecting the wrong Senators.

Federal government is oppressive. State government is oppressive. Local government is oppressive.

Gosh. Agree again. So did the FFs, who wanted to keep (IMNVHO) the levers of elective power as close to home as possible, so the oppressor at the local level had to be very accessible. (If it weren't for TV and the Internet, more of these local yokels would be assuming ambient temperature more frequently)

Problem: We have grown a sort of governmental cancer. That is, the bureaucracies that rule us, soldier on no matter who is in office, and can themselves "reward" the behavior they want from the elected. Their money must be taken away.

33 posted on 06/07/2013 3:19:47 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Spot on. The executive branch agencies are a massive transfer of power from states to the federal government. A federal government which is metastatizing into a national government. Exactly what the FF didn’t want.


41 posted on 06/07/2013 3:39:40 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Kenny Bunk
That is, the bureaucracies that rule us

IMO, we have an administrative state because Congress likes it. An agency screws a voter. Said voter complains to congressional delegation. A rep or senator helps the voter deal with the problem created by Congress. Voter thanks rep or senator and votes to reelect these swell guys.

A Senate of the States prior to the 17th was jealous of their legislative powers and delegated darn little of it to unelected bureaucrats. Today, it works in their favor to assign legislative duties in wholesale violation of Article I Section 1.

45 posted on 06/07/2013 3:49:25 PM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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