Posted on 06/05/2013 2:21:55 AM PDT by servo1969
Dear Stacey:
You have written demanding an apology for my recent characterization of the Mormon religion as "non-Christian." I am happy to write a public letter of apology to you and to the countless Mormon readers who responded negatively to my characterization.
I am sorry that so many of my Mormon readers have brazenly accused me of ignorance of their religion and suggested that I read the Book of Mormon. I am sorry that they were unaware that I read the Book of Mormon back in 2006.
I am sorry that the science of genetics has refuted claims made in the Book of Mormon concerning the relationship between Native Americans and Semitic people. These refutations undermine the entire historical premise of the Book of Mormon.
I am also sorry that while archeological discovery supports the claims of the Bible it clearly does not support the claims of the Book of Mormon. Battles that were supposed to have occurred in specific locations in North America simply never took place. The archeological evidence just isn't there.
I am sorry about the plagiarism of the Holy Bible that runs through the Book of Mormon. I am sorry that Mormons cannot see that Joseph Smith's refusal to reveal the golden tablets is strong evidence of their nonexistence. The heavy plagiarism in the Book of Mormon puts the lie to the rest of the story of Smith, the former seeker of the lost treasures of Captain Kidd.
I am sorry that my Mormon readers have put all their eggs in one basket by constantly writing to me quoting Matthew 7:16. So I am sorry that I must now apply that verse to the very first Mormon.
I am sorry that among the 33 well-documented plural wives of Joseph Smith, there were close to a dozen unions in which the wife was already married to another man.
I am sorry that in his lifetime, Joseph Smith married four different pairs of sisters. I am sorry that Joseph Smith married a young woman and also married her mother.
I am sorry that some of Joseph Smith's marriages were the result of religious coercion secured only after he told the prospective bride that marrying him would ensure the bride’s place in heaven. I am sorry that Smith also coerced teenagers into marrying him by promising their families a place in heaven.
I am sorry that Joseph Smith kept fourteen-year-old Helen Mar Kimball from marrying her sweetheart Horace Whitney because he wanted to marry the teenager instead. I am sorry that Joseph Smith also asked Helen’s father Heber C. Kimball to give him his wife.
I am sorry that before he eventually married Helen, Joseph Smith gave her a 24-hour deadline to give in to his offer of a place in heaven. I am sorry that two years after the death of Joseph Smith, Helen married her old sweetheart Horace Whitney. I am sorry that the marriage between Helen and Horace was only temporary because Helen was already "sealed" by marriage to Joseph Smith for eternity. I am sorry that Horace Whitney was "sealed" to an already dead Mormon woman before his “temporary” marriage to Helen.
I am sorry that after her mother died, Joseph Smith approached teenager Lucy Walker with a command that she marry Smith with the threat of eternal damnation as the punishment if she refused. I am sorry that the year before Joseph Smith died, he said the following to Lucy: “I will give you until tomorrow to decide (whether to marry me). If you reject this message the gate will be closed forever against you.”
I am sorry that the Book of Mormon, which Joseph Smith claims to have transcribed from the golden plates given to him by the Angel Moroni, says the following: “Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, Saith the Lord.” (Jacob 2:24).
I am sorry that Joseph Smith said the following shortly before his death: "(W)hen I get my kingdom, I shall present it to my father, so that he may obtain kingdom among kingdom, and it will exalt him in glory. He will then take a higher exaltation, and I will take his place, and thereby become exalted myself.”
I am sorry that Smith’s polytheism is not consistent with John 14:6. I am also sorry that since these are the words of Christ, polytheism cannot be Christian. Moreover, I am sorry, my Mormon friends, but the the words of Christ trump the words of Joseph Smith who will never be God.
I am sorry that Mormonism teaches that Christ was not there in the beginning, that god was just a man who became God by following a moral code he did not create, and that we may all become gods by following the same moral code that predates the existence of Jesus. I am sorry that the theological mess caused by Joseph Smith is irreconcilable with the teachings of the Holy Bible.
Finally, I am sorry that my Mormon readers have unfairly accused me of criticizing Mormonism without doing my homework. But I am glad I did. Now I understand the significance of Galatians 1:6-9.
Noahides and Jews adhere to Torah and the writings of the prophets. Noahides do not have to keep the 613 commandments. Those apply to Jews only.
We do not go by the KJV or the NIV or any other Christian version. We go by the Hebrew Scriptures that come from Jewish sources. The Jewish Publication Society is one example.
Aren’t Christians pissed that the Mormons have changed the Gospels? Now you know how the Jews (and even the Noahides) feel.
Ahh, the old No True Scotsman meme.
You've made a specific charge; and supplied a vague answer.
We Christians can produce evidence showing what we are claiming about Mormonism.
I am waiting for SPECIFIC changes that you are alluding to.
Well I guess you aren’t Mormon and you seem to have a idea that Gods ways are limited so. Well I don’t know what that means really..
The seven laws listed by the Tosefta and the Talmud are:[6]
#7 seems especially vague and potentially micro controlling.
Ouch...
Nope...
Surely you know the difference between a TRUE Sherman Logan and a person who uses Sherman Logan as a screen name...
Actually I know of few if any Jews who feel that way.
No Christian has ever committed a crime or said an unkind word about someone, since anybody who would do such a thing is not really a Christian.
Same can be, and has been, said about Muslims and other groups.
It should be pointed out that Smith said “some” Christians. So unless you wish to argue that “no” Christians fill the bill, he is right.
Which of course you can do by claiming that anyone who does something of which you disapprove is not “really” a Christian.
Not a meme. The truth.
Talk is cheap. Many call themselves Christian.
If they’re not living it, their claims are certainly suspect.
Same goes for Mormons.
You bet.
G-d is the ONLY savior.
I don’t see the difficulty.
G-d’s ways are not limited. This means no human can be G-d in any way,shape or form.
This includes Jesus,who was allegedly born to a virgin. G-d cannot be born. He can’t die either.
To say that a human was fully man and fully G-d is limiting G-d. He has no human form especially since humans are limited. We are born and we die.
Jesus did speak in secret through parables. He did not want everyone to know what he was talking about. He didn’t want everyone to know he was ‘the Christ’.
SOME Sherman Logans do NOT post factual data on FR.
Then it is your DUTY to post the TRUTH and the TWISTING; wouldn't you say?
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