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Posted on 05/24/2013 7:37:27 PM PDT by dagogo redux
Understanding Madmen: A DSM-IV Assessment of Adolf Hitler
Frederick L. Coolidge*, Felicia L. Davis, & Daniel L. Segal University of Colorado at Colorado Springs
ABSTRACT - Adolf Hitler’s personality was investigated posthumously through the use of an informant version of the Coolidge Axis II Inventory (CATI), which is designed for the assessment of personality, clinical, and neuropsychological disorders. Five academic Hitler historians completed the CATI. The overall mean inter-rater correlation was moderately high for all 38 CATI scales’ T scores (median r = .72). On Axis I, the highest mean T scores across raters were Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (76), Psychotic Thinking (73) and Schizophrenia (69). On Axis II, the highest mean T scores on the CATI scales were Paranoid Personality Disorder (78), Antisocial Personality Disorder (78), Narcissistic Personality Disorder (77), and Sadistic Personality Disorder (76). Results of the present study support the reliability and preliminary validity of informant reports for psychological investigations of historical or contemporary figures.
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I’m here to tell you something. In short: I am impressed.
As a propagandist, you have achieved everything I set out to do. You soared to victory this week like a Bundesadler in a Leni Riefenstahl film. I’m amazed der Juden and der junge are so devoted to your cause, as it seems you are determined to extinguish both. But what really impresses me is the blind faith with which more than half of America follows you. These are people who couldn’t care less about politics, yet somehow they are in a trance. Why? Because you promised them you care. Amazing. An entire generation of young men stand proudly behind you simply because you play basketball. And you’re not even good at it!
In New York, an American state that hasn’t voted for a Republican presidential candidate in almost 30 years, people flocked to the polls and insisted their friends do the same. I saw them tell their friends they felt “empowered” and that they were “real, true Americans.” When you won, New Yorkers all over the city cheered with glee despite having no idea about your policies. I asked many of them to distinguish between your opponent’s healthcare program and yours, and they had no idea. All they knew was their vote “made a difference” and “that’s what counts.” These are people with the math skills of a 12-year-old. You made an entire nation love you merely because you were black while claiming you were hated for precisely that reason. You are the most brilliant Negro I have ever seen.
After all but allowing an attack on your Libyan consulate you sent out a spokesperson denying such an event existed, and it worked. Instead of talking to world leaders you go on women’s talk shows. When unemployment soars, you say it would have gone much higher without you. You kill the space program and devote the resources to making Muslims feel better about themselves. MUSLIMS!? Isn’t America at war with a great number of them? You tell those disgusting Zionists to go back to the borders of nearly half a century ago and when they protest, you add that they must leave Iran alone. (This was my favorite part, BTW—I must have gone back and watched this 100 times.)
You convinced antiwar liberals that it’s OK to extend the Patriot Act AND do warrantless spying AND create a “kill list” AND conduct drone wars AND send a massive surge of new troops to Afghanistan AND keep Guantanamo despite promising the opposite. Then your propaganda machine convinces the country it’s your opponent who is the warmonger.
When you dig the deepest debt any president ever has, you say it had to be done. The nation’s young people will inherit this debt but you’ve convinced them that they don’t need to care. I’m about to go back in time and kill my kids, but you make me feel like a pussy. Imagine the Schadenfreude I feel when I hear adolescents call someone with twice as many Harvard degrees as you “stupid.” You control more young minds than that Ronald McDonald character.
You have somehow convinced the Obama Youth any fact that is “divisive” (I love that word) is not worth knowing. If someone points out a failure, you blame the previous administration, and 50% of the voters blindly agree. You made politics about pop culture and fashion, and now the Dumb Community worships you. You’ve convinced the nation that begot “Don’t Tread on Me” that it needs a government that “cares about them.” Amazing. You’ve turned them into dependent infants.
I haven’t seen propaganda this effective since Roosevelt. He managed to convince post-Depression America that it was the government’s job to make things right. Roosevelt instilled in the lower classes a permanent reliance on government that persists today and will go well past the Second Civil War of 2030.
Fox News appears to be the only one asking questions, but only old people are watching and they will all die shortly. Old people ask too many questions.
This is why I killed Andrew Breitbart. I had seen him pollute the populace like a virus. The most important part of good propaganda is not caring about the truth. I am still worried about this group who call themselves libertarians. Like Andrew, they seem open to debate and have no allegiance to anyone. Though they scoffed at your National Socialism, they also objected to your opponent’s foreign policy and the prohibition of drugs. This is dangerous because where there is loyalty to truth, there is no loyalty to leaders. However, I think it’s this lack of loyalty to one group that will be the libertarians’ downfall.
Your acceptance speech reminded me of all my hard work and I felt proud. After the Depression and before the war, I told a room full of fans, “This nation will again start making history.” Imagine the joy I felt when, 80 years later, I heard you say, “We have fought our way back and we know in our hearts that for the United States of America the best is yet to come.”
The masses are dumb, uneducated fools who can’t think for themselves. They need the government to solve their problems. They need a fascist dictatorship where one great leader chooses who will run the economy.
You are the black eagle on my coat of arms and the only negative thing I could possibly say is that you make me feel slightly inferior. On that note, I am off to kill my family. Watch out for those libertarians and keep up the good fight. Auf Wiedersehen und Gute Nacht!
—Dr. Joseph Goebbels
Found at Taki's Magazine: Dear Barack Obama (A Letter From Joseph Goebbels)
by Gavin McInnes
http://takimag.com/article/dear_barack_obama_a_letter_from_joseph_goebbels_gavin_mcinnes/print
Hitler was a great deal most popular than BHO, who never got more than 53% of the vote.
Had Hitler been run for re-election in 1937 or 38, he would probably have gotten well over 75%.
Hitler is easy. Very easy.
Read Norman Spinrad’s “The Iron Dream”.
And lest anyone think that Germany and Europe has really changed much, see this:
http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/brown-beer-red-gore/
Reallife experience. Never been so nervous in my life. Not even sitting down with a pizza in a Hells Angels hangout in Copenhagen and being glared at.
“Hitler is easy. Very easy.”
Skinheads may be easy; Hitler, on the other hand, was one of the most psychologically complex characters in recorded history, IMO.
You can argue the point forever, but I’m just not buying that he was ‘just your average skinhead.’
Or even ‘just your average’ anything.
Psychologically elementary arguments, I think, miss the mark completely.
Hilter’s pathology emerged with the increased use of amphetamines. He started his movement believing strongly in racial purity, though. It was all the rage in that epoch. We even had gaggles of those types in America. You’re no doubt familiar with Margaret Sanger. She was of the same mindset as Hitler, and that mindset was inveigling europe to the extent that rational people were welcoming the means to achieve ‘purity’.
It doesn’t surprise me; however, I, personally, would be extremely reluctant to ascribe to any one thing the complex Hitler phenomenon.
Granted, I’m no Hitler scholar, but it seems to me that there have been hundreds of character studies done of him, and - according to those who are supposed to know - every one has fallen short.
It sometimes seems to me that Hitler wasn’t a human being so much as he was a Cosmic Event.
I liken Hitler (and Stalin to great extent, with the Italian dictator thrown in) to something found in Daniel, Old Testament, where Daniel has been praying earnestly for an answer from God, for weeks, when suddenly an entity appears to Daniel by the River Chabar, to answer his prayers. The Angel explains that it has been restrained from coming to Damiel because of a demonic power working Persia. There appears to have been a demonic power working the developed nations, along the lines of this racial purity notion twisted to support all manner of evil.
As I said, read Spinrad. He has a remarkable grip on Hitler’s fever dreams. It’s really quite in step with the OSS “for the president’s eyes only” report. It was released a few years back, by the English. They didn’t feel bound by the classification.
Anyway, Spinrad’s character - Feric Jaggar - was so compelling that it formed the adopted identity for one of the most famed nazists of our day, Matthias Giwer.
The skinhead thing was a purely EU comment, nothing to do with report or book.
For more info on the report, ask Mesta. She read it long before declassified.
I’ve read Shirer; found it quite sufficient, thanks, and I stand by my previous comments.
Rise and fall?? Shirer was a historian, hardly a psychologist or psychiatrist. Not exactly an argument for Hitler being unique, or uniquely complex.
If Shirer had an argument it was that the German people itself was as much to blame for the reich as Hitler.
Do you REALLY need to resort to some self-appointed psychologist to comprehend that Hitler was a unique - and uniquely strange - individual?????
Forgive me, but it seems to me a singularly short-sighted and exceedingly obtuse, and even bizarre, position to take.
Really?
As I said, even the historian you cited was criticised because he did NOT see Hitler as the unique force behind the reich. And the OSS report, hidden until year 2000 (but Britain dropped the ball a year or so early) was hardly written by “some self-appointed psychologist”. It was prepared by a number of psychologists for the OSS, for the US President’s “eyes only”. After the war, it was shared by the 5 powers and supposed to have a much longer time under wraps.
In fact, Hitler got most of his “final solution” delivered to him from outside, by his “Palestinian” friend and ally Hajj Amin al Husseini.
Yes, that’s fine, and I’m sure it’s all true.
However, I think we might take a moment to reflect that the thread is all about, “Was Hitler nuts.” And, “How did his psychopathology compare to Obama’s.
And, with the greatest possible respect, I really don’t think we need an in-depth and professional psychological evluation to render an assessment; Hitler was quite clearly, to use the vernacular, Bull Goose Looney.
That he was also a genius, is, I believe, not in dispute.
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