Cold fusion reactor independently verified, has 10,000 times the energy density of gas

Intrade Gateway via Extreme Tech ^ | May 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm | Sebastian Anthony

[Kevmo]

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Cold fusion reactor independently verified, has 10,000 times the energy density of gas By Sebastian Anthony on May 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm 338 Comments

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Against all probability, a device that purports to use cold fusion to generate vast amounts of power has been verified by a panel of independent scientists. The research paper, which hasn’t yet undergone peer review, seems to confirm both the existence of cold fusion, and its potency: The cold fusion device being tested has roughly 10,000 times the energy density and 1,000 times the power density of gasoline. Even allowing for a massively conservative margin of error, the scientists say that the cold fusion device they tested is 10 times more powerful than gasoline — which is currently the best fuel readily available to mankind.

The device being tested, which is called the Energy Catalyzer (E-Cat for short), was created by Andrea Rossi. Rossi has been claiming for the past two years that he had finally cracked cold fusion, but much to the chagrin of the scientific community he hasn’t allowed anyone to independently analyze the device — until now. While it sounds like the scientists had a fairly free rein while testing the E-Cat, we should stress that they still don’t know exactly what’s going on inside the sealed steel cylinder reactor. Still, the seven scientists, all from good European universities, obviously felt confident enough with their findings to publish the research paper.

As for what’s happening inside the cold fusion reactor, Andrea Rossi and his colleague Sergio Focardi have previously said their device works by infusing hydrogen into nickel, transmuting the nickel into copper and releasing a large amount of heat. While Rossi hasn’t provided much in the way of details — he’s a very secretive man, it seems — we can infer some knowledge from NASA’s own research into cold fusion. Basically, hydrogen ions (single protons) are sucked into a nickel lattice (pictured right); the nickel’s electrons are forced into the hydrogen to produce neutrons; the nickel nuclei absorb these neutrons; the neutrons are stripped of their electrons to become protons; and thus the nickel goes up in atomic number from 28 to 29, becoming copper.

This process, like the “conventional” fusion of hydrogen atoms into helium, produces a lot of heat. (See: 500MW from half a gram of hydrogen: The hunt for fusion power heats up.) The main difference, though, is that the cold fusion process (also known as LENR, or low energy nuclear reaction) produces very slow moving neutrons which don’t create ionizing radiation or radioactive waste. Real fusion, on the other hand, produces fast neutrons that decimate everything in their path. In short, LENR is fairly safe — safe enough that NASA dreams of one day putting a cold fusion reactor in every home, car, and plane. Nickel and hydrogen, incidentally, are much cheaper and cleaner fuels than gasoline.

As far as we can tell, the main barrier to cold fusion — as with normal fusion — is producing more energy than you put in. In NASA’s tests, it takes a lot more energy to fuse the nickel and hydrogen than is produced by the reaction. Rossi, it would seem, has discovered a secret sauce that significantly reduces the amount of energy required to start the reaction. As for what the secret sauce is, no one knows — in the research paper, the independent scientists simply refer to it as “unknown additives.” All told, the E-Cat seems to have a power density of 4.4×105 W/kg, and an energy density of 5.1×107 Wh/kg.

If Rossi and Focardi’s cold fusion technology turns out to be real — if the E-Cat really has 10,000 times the energy density and 1,000 times the power density of gasoline — then the world will change, very, very quickly. Stay tuned; we’ll let you know when — or if — the E-Cat passes peer review.

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Research paper: arXiv:1305.3913 - “Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device”

[count-your-change]

“14,700 replications” of what? Rossi’s set-up? With what results? 10,000 times the energy density of gasoline? Of those supposed 14,700 replications how many rely on some secret catalyst?

The e-cat Seven's paper is being dismantled by questions that have been ignored and brushed aside until now.

[Moonman62]

So, quit avoiding the 14,700 replications question and answer it.

14,700 is a claim by an obscure Chinese academic. The 14,700 have never been listed or verified.

[Moonman62]

The e-cat Seven's paper is being dismantled by questions that have been ignored and brushed aside until now.

The 14,700 number is something Kevmo falls back on when he's flustered and getting his butt kicked.

[Kevmo]

It’s time to take the mod’s advice and ignore you.

Thanks 4 Bumping The Thread T4BTT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19

[Kevmo]

It’s time to take the mod’s advice and ignore you.

Thanks 4 Bumping The Thread T4BTT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19

[UCANSEE2]

I haz a qwestion.

Since the purpose of all this heat is to run a steam turbine, what will surrounding the ‘cylinder’ with water do to the ability of the device to MAINTAIN that heat ?

Will the ‘reaction’ shut down if the temperature gets lowered?

Will it require MORE INPUT POWER to keep the heat high enough for the ‘reaction’ to keep occurring ?

[UCANSEE2]

Do you really expect responses to that lengthy response?

That's a bit 'hypocritical' considering the 14,700 lengthy responses you have posted, and YOUR DEMAND THAT ALL OF YOUR 'QUESTIONS' be answered.

You didn’t respond to the question about 14,700 replications, so why should I respond to this Word Salad?

[UCANSEE2]

Here is what is ironic.

The ‘claim’s of LENR may all be true, but KEVMO will be remembered in history for having turned EVEN THOSE WHO BELIEVE in it , totally against it.

[UCANSEE2]

The ONLY way the "Hot Cat" can be faked is by some mechanism of getting additional electromagnetic energy into the device.

Like the 'earth ground' wire ?

[Kevmo]

And then people will revisit these threads and notice something: Kevmo didn’t start the insults. And the other side displayed some amazing ignorance of science and were incapable of avoiding some of the simplest classic fallacies.

[Kevmo]

Looks like someone pissed in your cornflakes this morning.

[Kevmo]

case in point, post #427

didn’t even have to go far, just the next post from you

[UCANSEE2]

Please... Please... Please do not avoid these questions.

OK, ok, just quit begging.

***Judging by the ALL CAPs, I gather what you’re saying is supposed to be important.

See... you are smarter than you give yourself credit for.

From that sentiment, would you consider it rational that those FReepers who do not agree with your sentiment could be categorized as hyperskeptics? Skeptopaths? Anti Science? Luddites? Seagulls? What is the proper term for somene so aggressively skeptical, and frankly, only when it comes to LENR?

Human.

[2001convSVT]

If the pathway for fusion is converting Nickle to copper than measure with a Mass Spectrometer the copper present before the reactor is turned on and measure for the presence of copper produced after the reactor has been run for a specified time period. If there is no change in copper than it is a fraud if there is a change than the reactor is proven.

[Kevmo]

When they start acting human, then maybe FR will see some progress.

[count-your-change]

I don’t think you can do it. A bit o’ sunshine is causing this lovely little scrap of paper to fade away and with it the purported “INDendently VARified” hopes for Rossi’s e-cat.

But then....oh well and oh well...

[count-your-change]

Trade secret. Evryone is waiting to steal this unpatented technology and make hundreds of billions of dollars. Pixie dust will take care it.

[UCANSEE2]

Looks like someone pissed in your cornflakes this morning.

Whatever doesn't kill you , makes you stronger.

Good morning to you. Did you have a nice Holiday?

I wonder if you would try to answer the questions I posed to some others. Consider it 'speenfooding' if you will. : )

Since the purpose of all this heat is to run a steam turbine, what will surrounding the ‘cylinder’ with water do to the ability of the device to MAINTAIN that heat ?

Will the ‘reaction’ shut down if the temperature gets lowered?

Will it require MORE INPUT POWER to keep the heat high enough for the ‘reaction’ to keep occurring ?

[2001convSVT]

And the reaction is very simple to prove or dispel, measure the Nickel plate for the presence of Copper, before and after the reaction is run. Is there an increase in Copper? The energy released in changeing Nickel to Copper is well know, did the energy released correspond to the amount of Copper produced?

[2001convSVT]

Just measure for an increase in Copper on the Nickel plates, use a Mass Spectrometer to measure before and after the reaction.