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The LENR and (free energy)Perpetual Motion Machine
Danald Simanek's Pages ^ | Jan, 2006 | Donald Simanek

Posted on 05/23/2013 2:22:26 AM PDT by count-your-change

"Some inventors declare quite openly that the conservation of energy doesn't apply to their device. I ask them about some similar unworkable device; whether they can find any flaw in it. Without hesitation they dismiss that other device because it violates conservation of energy. Why then, does that same argument apply to their invention? Or, why does conservation of energy apply to the other device, but not to their own? They cannot answer that, but it doesn't shake their confidence. One inventor answered by saying it was due to "environmental shift". When asked to define that precisely, he spouted some gobbledygook about "things behave differently in different enviroments". These inventors are good at making up principles of nature as required to support their fantasies.

Such "true believers" are certain that they have a hotline to truth—absolute truth. They are upset and even angered that anyone can fail to see these truths. In fact, they usually consider skeptics to be deliberately denying these truths, for some personal or emotional reasons. They see skeptics as "the enemy", an enemy to be discredited in any way possible. They invent all sorts of fantastic reasons why the "establishment" would attempt to "hide or deny the truth". Perhaps it's a "vast conspiracy" by scientists to preserve their jobs and their status as guardians of their faith in false principles.

Yet in his own analysis, the inventor often builds upon certain fundamental principles of physics that he accepts as valid. He doesn't realize that his faulty conclusion, if true, would invalidate the very principles he used in his own logical analysis."

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; freeenergy; lenr; seagullthread
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Simanek adds:

"Perpetual motion machine inventors generally exhibit these characteristics: He has supreme confidence in himself and his (faulty and superficial) understanding of physics and engineering. He has no appreciation of, or confidence in, the powerful general principles of physics that apply universally to all systems, even systems not yet invented or tested. He is convinced that you can't declare the possibility or impossibility of something on the basis of known and well-established physics. Sometimes the inventor's own calculations are based on equations and principles of well-established physics. He's just done them incorrectly. He usually overlooked something. Sometimes the inventor assumes eccentric principles of physics of his own invention, unknown to professional physicists. He thinks that the laws thermodynamics are no more than dogmatic assertions. He doesn't understand that they are based on a solid foundation of more fundamental laws, such as Newton's laws. He doesn't realize that if his device did violate the laws of thermodynamics it would necessarily also violate more fundamental laws, such as Newton's laws of force and motion. He doesn't grasp that if his calculations, reached a conclusion in violation of the laws of physics, then we know that he simply made a blunder, neglected something, or misapplied a law. And we can know this without even bothering to check the calculations to find the specific error(s). So does he accept established physics or not? Only when its conclusions suit his preconceptions, beliefs, or desires. In short, even if the inventor "knows" some laws and principles of physics, drawn from textbooks, he's missing the bigger picture of how they interconnect, and how they are properly applied. He wears very large blinders."

1 posted on 05/23/2013 2:22:27 AM PDT by count-your-change
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To: count-your-change; All
www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm‎ is the web site.
2 posted on 05/23/2013 2:24:46 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change

original title: The psychology of perpetual motion machine inventors.


3 posted on 05/23/2013 2:26:43 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change

The title should be changed, the original is definitely short enough to fit.


4 posted on 05/23/2013 2:29:35 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: count-your-change

I think I can believe in the possibility of Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, because on the surface it does seem possible to be able to exchange electrons at a low energy level.

However, it’s just a question of how useful this reaction is and whether it can be scaled up to industrial use.


5 posted on 05/23/2013 2:32:13 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: count-your-change

The perpetual motion machine does exist and is toroughly documented. It even has a few different names:

Socialism
National Socialism
Islam

and so on...


6 posted on 05/23/2013 2:32:59 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: count-your-change
Let's try an actual working link.
www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm
7 posted on 05/23/2013 3:43:10 AM PDT by NonLinear (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: count-your-change
And, a link to the actual article referenced as opposed to the general website:
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/psych.htm
8 posted on 05/23/2013 3:47:34 AM PDT by NonLinear (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: count-your-change

I thought I was reading an article on Al Gore.

He is a arrogant as they come and getting richer and richer off junk science and phoney legislation designed to take more and more money from “the little people”

He is always right and you better not question his “science” but he will never debate you on it.

Energy prices will deflate once this blowhard is puching up daisys


9 posted on 05/23/2013 3:51:02 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Obama is like Ron Burgundy - he will read ANYTHING that is on the teleprompter)
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To: count-your-change

Wow, an entire article about Andrea Rossi, without ever mentioning him by name! I wonder what the old con man is up to these days, anyway.

I remember having to figure out the flaws in some of these “perpetual motion” devices in physics class. There is always some fundamental principle being overlooked. It’s like my son says, “Gravity isn’t just a good idea, it’s the law!”


10 posted on 05/23/2013 3:57:00 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Jonty30
I think I can believe in the possibility of Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, because on the surface it does seem possible to be able to exchange electrons at a low energy level.

Electrons exchange all the time...

You can force a neutron into an atomic nucleus, destabilizing the nucleus. I believe this is a common method for making radioisotopes. However, this process is a net consumer of energy, not an energy source.

11 posted on 05/23/2013 3:59:31 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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“However, this process is a net consumer of energy, not an energy source.”

Somewhere along the line there was a repeal of the laws of energy passed by the Green Energy Resource Group. The GERG’s decided that it was okay to make stuff up as long as it fit the agenda.

12 posted on 05/23/2013 4:48:04 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: Jonty30

Quite so. And even after useful devices are introduced, it commonly takes decades after the first models of products incorporating a major new technology hit the market before the technology becomes fully practical, affordable, and economically significant.


13 posted on 05/23/2013 5:01:19 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: count-your-change

Beautiful. Kemvo will not be amused.


14 posted on 05/23/2013 5:20:02 AM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: fuente

Ha-ha!


15 posted on 05/23/2013 5:23:25 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: NonLinear

Thank you! There’s a great deal more at the site.


16 posted on 05/23/2013 5:41:51 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: fuente

Saving the world with lenr is serious business.


17 posted on 05/23/2013 5:47:54 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change

That’s hugh! I’m series! ;-)


18 posted on 05/23/2013 9:59:24 AM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: Hardraade
It's got a model name in fact ~ TOKAMAK ~ those things have cost innumerable multiple billions of bucks to build and test and NONE OF THEM WORK, and if they WORK they get irradiated, metal parts break, they turn to garbage in minutes.

Once it was revealed the current state of knowledge is such that attempts at hot fusion will invariably result in the emission of hard radiation which will always destroy any containment vessel, attempts to make this approach to fusion work are easily classified as little more than a belief in magic!

Hot fusion is a scam.

19 posted on 05/28/2013 3:40:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: exDemMom
Have you tricked out the problem with hot fusion schemes yet?

They've all failed due to damaging irradiation of the containment vessels and even structural supports.

Without more advanced knowledge of physics than we have now, controlled hot fusion for generation of useful power is just magical thinking.

20 posted on 05/28/2013 3:43:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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