Posted on 05/15/2013 2:30:31 PM PDT by djf
Deep in the basement of a dusty old library in Edinburgh lies a small black box that churns out random numbers. At first glance the box looks profoundly dull, but it is, in fact, the eye' of a machine that appears capable of peering into the future.
The machine apparently sensed the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center four hours before they happened, and appeared to forewarn of the Asian Tsunami.
"It's Earth shattering stuff," says Dr Roger Nelson, Emeritus researcher at Princeton University in the USA. "But unfortunately we don't have a box for predicting the future that we can sell to the CIA. We're very early on in the process of trying to figure out what's going on here. At the moment we're stabbing in the dark."
Dr Nelson's Global Consciousness Project - originally hosted by Princeton University - is one of the most extraordinary experiments of all time. It aims to sense' whether all of humanity shares a single unconscious mind that we all tap into without realizing it. Some might refer to it as the mind of God. But the machine has also thrown up another tantalizing possibility: that scientists may have unwittingly discovered a way of predicting the future.
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Read up on chaos theory and probability theory. Not light reading, but extremely interesting. Michu Kaiku’s ‘Hyperdimensions’ is also a fantastic read.
I have no way to answer that because I can’t prove or disprove Nirvana. If Nirvana already existed, what was the point of creating man to go to Nirvana. Why not just side step the whole process and create the essence of man instead of the whole man? And then just go ahead and send the essence of man to Nirvana.
The machine apparently sensed the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center four hours before they happened, and appeared to forewarn of the Asian Tsunami.I predict that this will be shown to be fraudelent.
It's run by this guy!
It could mean something like that, sure. It could also mean that it’s just our perception of time that is “fuzzy”. Think about a motion picture. It’s not a fluid moving image, but really just a series of static images displayed in sequence. Our brain takes that input and creates a fluid perception.
So, maybe time is quantized, and our brain just creates a fluid perception for us, which would necessarily be an imperfect approximation, since our brain would have to interpolate some things.
I’ve got a little theory about time myself, and in my theory, our perception of time is not actually limited to a single “instant” at a time, like it appears to us. I think we really perceive a very thin “slice” of time, including not just the present moment, but perhaps a tiny bit of the past, and a tiny bit of the future. Then, our brain probably filters out the “bookends” as irrelevant data. I derived this idea purely from common sense observations about relativity and time dilation.
There have been a number of RNG experiments over the decades. The problem is that the ‘peer reviewers’ are the same people that ‘peer review” global warming studies. There is a large component of politics around this... Because of what actual ‘proof’ would mean for society as a whole.
Knowing who to trust with this stuff is the biggest problem.
If the side stepping of the process of the “whole man” experience, for the expediency of the “essence of man” experience of Nirvana existed, Nirvana, would not have any relative meaning.
For all we know, this current Human condition could be that Nirvana.
I was just discussing this with somebody next week.
This is not science. This is what you find on the ground after a male bovine finishes his meal.
NO, you do not expect it to be a flatline. The only thing we can say is that if you have a perfectly random generator producing numbers for an infinite time, there will tend to be an equal number of occurrences of each possibility.
A computer is a deterministic machine. No computer can ever produce a truly random sequence. Throwing balls or flipping coins is not perfectly random either.
The passage of electrons from one energy state to another is the nearest we can come to truly random.
No mind of God. No predicting the future. No sophisticated technology (most programming languages have pseudo-random generators)
An infinite time is that which you never reach.
There is so much wrong with that article that I have to stop reading it.
“If Nirvana already existed, what was the point of creating man to go to Nirvana. Why not just side step the whole process and create the essence of man instead of the whole man? And then just go ahead and send the essence of man to Nirvana.”
Man was not created to go to Nirvana. Nirvana or Heaven is a place where “the essence of man” or his spirit goes after his mortal existence is over. Man’s spirit inhabits his body as a baby, and upon one’s death, it moves on to a more perfect place that some call Heaven and others may call Nirvana. our existence on this earth as a mortal is a period of growth and learning for our spirit as we continue on our continuum of immortality.
That was interesting. I wish they had told more about time moving backwards. It sounds more like a sixth sense then predicting the future.
Maybe a sense we lost when Eve went a dining
With all due respect, there is no data which can support the idea of man controlled “probabilities”. If such things do not exist, there can be no data supporting them.
If a man said, “I think it is highly probable that the sun will rise tomorrow.” and the sun actually rose, to ascribe this event to man’s consciousness actually affecting, or worse “effecting”, this outcome would be errant science. Irrespective of the number of times such observations might be made, the outcomes were not dependent upon man. The Scripture ascribes all future events to God’s determination.
“time exists all at once, it isn’t linear. “
That is true for God, and for God only. God exists outside of the chain of causality. Because of that, God is immutable. Everything and everyone else is subject to change. Assigning numbers to the sequence of events is commonly called time.
St Thomas of Aquinas could say it better.
I’m just asking why bother putting the spirit of a man into a baby. Why not just put the spirit of a man to Nirvana and eliminate the middle man - or baby.
If that's true, who did I piss off?
Seems to me this may implicate Bell’s Theorem (not theory) of non-locality.
What say you?
well, you haven’t pissed me off yet, so you can start there.
You are one of the very few people I have ever heard even discuss that issue.
I have studied Bell’s ideas a fair amount - much of the math is very daunting, on the level of say, Diracs writings.
But the non-locality inequality is really very simple. An educated 8th grader could understand it.
Historically, his theorem has been interpreted to be and idea that is about space, but not really about time.
Problem is, if there is non-locality in space, there is also non-locality in the time dimension(s)!
Non locality in the time dimension basically means you could wake up in the morning, open the door to get your newspaper, (assuming you still get one delivered!) and finding a perfectly healthy pterosaur on your porch.
It is, of course, extremely, extremely, extremely unlikely.
But it would not violate the laws of physics as they are understood today.
Believe what you like, but you are wrong. I am neither God nor his prophet, yet I have at times foreseen the future. I have had dreams of very specific events a few days before they occurred, and told others of it before the event. I can almost always sense when I am going to have an unpleasant surprise within a day or so, although I cannot always say of what type. Sometimes I will sense strongly that a person who I haven't spoken to in years will call me, and without any logical reason to suspect it, they do that same day. The reverse never happens.
It's like the article describes it, I feel somehow that I am tapping into a larger consciousness. It's nothing weird, it's just a strong sense that I've learned to listen to. Unfortunately, I cannot predict Powerball numbers or anything like that, but I have time and again used my odd ability to make money in my profession.
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