Lost in space: 'Star Trek' movie review (1 1/2 stars)

NY Post ^

[Perdogg]

Why would a Starfleet admiral ask a 300-year-old frozen man for help?’’ asks Captain Kirk in his latest adventure — and, after sitting through two-plus hours of the mind-numbing “Star Trek Into Darkness,’’ damned if I could tell you why.

[Durus]

It's incredible popularity must be why it only lasted 3 seasons and had poor ratings. Unless it Rodenberry's social commentary that was rife in almost every episode. The only reason why it continued on in any form after cancellation is that Paramount put it out there for syndication at very good prices. (To recoup production losses on the series)This increased the original series popularity beyond what it was when it was airing.

It's funny, almost everyone I know who is a "serious" Trekkie and loves the first series hated Star Trek:TNG even though it was much more popular, got better ratings and lasted 7 seasons

In order for something to be good it doesn't have to be wildly popular and popularity isn't a good measure of quality. That being said the original series was poor in everything except originality. Almost everything, including the animated series and excluding the Scott Bacula monstrosity, has been an improvement.

The reason I liked the last Star Trek movie is because Abrams created a new time line so he wouldn't be stuck constantly having to bow to Trekkie fanatic cannon. We have the luxury of the characters which we liked, their interplay, without the dogma. I wish someone could have done something similar to Star Wars before Lucus put a stake through the franchise's heart with episodes 1-3.

I wouldn't mind a new Trek set further into the future, but the alternate time line is about as far as you could have pushed Hollywood who currently has an aversion to anything new and original.

[fieldmarshaldj]

That’s more of an indictment of the tastes of moviegoers today (many of whom could care less about the history of Trek, anyhow). There is no comparison with this subpar cast of kiddies vs. the original. Nada.

[discostu]

Watch Sherlock, then you’ll be able to see him as Kahn. Yeah he won’t be the exuding manliness version we got from Ricardo, but there really aren’t those kind of actors out there. He’ll be the 3 steps ahead of Kirk super genius Kahn. He’s a really good actor.

[discostu]

Other than the fact that it’s better and more entertaining, not so self congratulatory, and not bogged down by a desperate need to preach a silly political view.

Sorry but the more you whine the more we know the problem is you, not the movie. JJ made good Trek, apparently too good for you.

[fieldmarshaldj]

I see it pointless to argue with someone who finds such fault with the original while defending the current abortion of a remake. Without that original, you’d have no remakes, no spinoffs, nor any of the cultural touchstones that it inspired (probably no Star Wars, either).

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

Oh God it is like one of the most mind blowing books I ever read, the gangs that existed in New York city in the mid to late 1800s were just absolutely insane. The book I read was a real old edition, I think from the early 1900s, but it was just incredible. Here it is....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gangs_of_New_York_(book)

They go into the draft riots of 1863 in extreme detail, it’s graphic as hell.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots

Here is one copy I found

http://www.amazon.com/Gangs-New-York-Informal-Underworld/dp/0307388980

Some people gave it bad reviews which I cannot understand at all, the book was very accurate. All these gangs did exist, there’s even photographs of them floating around like this....

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~ma04/wood/ykid/imagehtml/riis_streetmen.htm

and to this day you can see the streets of the 5 points which is located in the heart of Chinatown.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Sorry, but that’s not Khan. That’s Bennie Walton, the long-lost “special” cousin from the sticks of Virginia. That kid playing Kirk is ALMOST as ridiculous.

[discostu]

Sorry but you’re just whining. You do realize the “kid” playing Kirk is actually the age Kirk was supposed to be according to canon? And Cumberpatch is great. Like I said, watch Sherlock, it’s on the Netflix stream. 10 minutes in you’ll be able to see it. Of course you won’t bother to do that because then you’ll lose something to gripe about.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Pardon me for demanding even the most basic standards for a long-respected science fiction landmark. I know crap when I see it, and Abrams dropped a great big turd on the franchise. Revenge of the Star Wars fanbois.

[Kickass Conservative]

How can a Vulcan be Gay, it’s not Logical.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Whining because I don’t worship at the altar of JJ Abrams ? You’re funny, Stu.

[discostu]

No whining because you worship Trek and don’t like that somebody refolded the blanky. Anybody that thinks JJ ruined Trek needs to first explain how Voyager didn’t ruin it.

[EEGator]

Cool, thanks for the links. I’ll read the book and let you know what I think. (If you don’t mind)

[discostu]

Actually it’s a long mocked SF landmark. The simple fact of the matter is that most Trek is crap. Half of TOS is just dumb, the first 4 seasons of TNG are crap, DS9 is probably the most consistent Trek ever and even it has plenty of clunkers, V is complete junk, ENT started off OK but went bad fast, truth be told the only of the original 10 movies that any good at all is Kahn. The fact that you think THAT track record is something that should be hallowed ground shows you don’t know crap when you see it, because you’ve seen plenty of it and are griping that somebody actually found a way to make that universe entertaining.

[dfwgator]

"Get a life!"

[freedumb2003]

Commander Powell: [in cryogenic deep freeze after passing away] Tell me Doolittle. How are the Dodgers doing?
Doolittle: They... they broke up. They disbanded over fifteen years ago!
Commander Powell: Aah... pity. Pity.

[fieldmarshaldj]

You’re whining, Stu.

[freedumb2003]

Star Trek (reboot) was XI.

Into Darkness is XII.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_(film_series)

[ApplegateRanch]

Rather than remake it, they should’ve continued on past beyond Picard’s Enterprise and set it in the 25th century with a new ship and new characters.

Captain McKenzie Calhoun comes to mind, as a good continuation starting point.

[Mr Rogers]

The guy (32, 33?) playing Kirk is playing someone who spent about 5 minutes in the Academy before taking command of their most powerful starship. In TOS, Kirk worked his way up fast, but he DID have a military career, and much of his success was based on what he learned by watching good and bad commanders during his career.

As a retired military guy, I find the idea that Kirk at what...18? 19? is ready to command the most powerful starship in the Federation just silly. Although it is no worse than the band of juvenile geniuses who help him...

Although according to Chris Pine, the character is “a 25-year-old [who acts like a] 15-year-old” and who is “angry at the world”. Just the sort I would want with his finger on the power to destroy a planet...