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To: Army Air Corps

Problem is you’ve got 28 seasons of TV show and 10 movies setting up all kinds of races and people and historical elements, accidentally make a reference to the wrong person in the wrong time and the canonheads get their panties in a twist (again Enterprise). Even the mirror universe has a bunch of canon having appeared in 9 episodes spanning 3 shows. All the reboot is doing is snapping off all the other stuff and giving the a clean slate to play with, now they don’t need to worry if they’re not supposed to meet that race yet or have warp too fast. Reboots (and their cousin ret-cons) are pretty common place, and something Trek should have done a LONG time ago. Problem of course is there’s this chunk of the Trek fanbase that’s obsessive on those things to the point of complaining to the stars about buttons changing function, so they always had fear. Which is sad, because originally Trek had no canon, and it worked better that way, http://www.postmodernbarney.com/author/john/ (weird archive, read from bottom up).


71 posted on 04/28/2013 3:34:05 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: discostu
Problem of course is there’s this chunk of the Trek fanbase that’s obsessive on those things to the point of complaining to the stars about buttons changing function, so they always had fear.

The problem here is that Abrams is trying to have it both ways, reboot but also drop all sorts of little M&Ms from the other Treks and particularly the original series.

I mean, Tribbles? Really? They were central to one - ONE - Orig Series episode that was done with a decidedly whimsical tone. As well as a DS9 homage episode. It sounds like in Darkness they're in just as a convenient plot device with Abrams only using them (as opposed to an infinite list of other available devices - like Admiral Archer's prize beagle) as a too-cute nod to original timeline Trek.

From this review, I may not even go see the movie (I decided not to waste my time and money see Oblivion after reading that it's just a rehash of several other sci-fi movies), because it now stinks like the worst kind of fanboy fan-fiction ...
75 posted on 04/28/2013 3:49:55 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: discostu

I understand that some aspect of the Mirroe Universe and other races have been touched on. Still, they are not fleshed-out to the point that they cannot be tweaked or expanded. I agree with an earlier poster on that Abrams seems to want it to both ways. Personally, my opinion is pick one, dude. A complete “reboot” or a remake - pick one. Hell’s bells, they could have just tried an entirely new storyline with new characters within the broader universe - good writers would find a way to make it work. Heck, even go the AVP route and have Gorns versus Tholians! ;-). Instead, it seems as though the writers chose the lazy route - take accepted characters and change things just enough to give the appearance of orginality but with damned little truly fresh.


78 posted on 04/28/2013 4:18:33 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: discostu; Army Air Corps

A good example of how to deal with years of Canon is what ‘Doctor Who’ has done...use what you works and ignore the rest...there is always a tie to tie things together later if needed.


105 posted on 04/29/2013 7:32:39 AM PDT by Borges
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