The homosexualists are an arm of the left:
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
They are not attempting to seek redress of some injustice, as they pretend, and as their apologists pretend. They do not desire a separate scouting organization- that would defeat their actual purpose, which is to break up or weaken institutions that harbor or espouse real American values. This would occur because, in the case of the Scouts, once the homosexuals infested it, good people would shun it. Thus, Scouting would be destroyed, and the left would grow stronger.
What a great idea. Can you imagine? A Merit Badge in show tunes and one for flood prevention on the Mississippi River.
Welcome newb2012 and nice thought provoking probe.
California just passed a law making it illegal for groups to try to straighten out gays? It made so called reparative therapy illegal.
So why are NAMBLA and LGBT accusing the Boy Scouts of sex discrimination? What if the Boy Scouts “accidentally” turn a gay boy straight? Why would they want a boy under BSA influence?
How can the BSA ever win - at least in California and more states to come?
It just shows their true agenda - anything to screw up society and the moral order. And to infiltrate BSA with gay counselors and leaders.
The left will never agree to that, because the purpose of the exercise is *not* the advocacy of homosexuality, but the destruction of the Boy Scouts as an organization, because it is not controlled and integrated in the agenda of the left.
To put this in perspective, the left learned the value of youth movements from the Nazis. Just five years after the founding of the Hitler Jugend, to create a next generation of ideologically pure Nazi party members, the socialist and communist youth leagues in Norway merged to form a youth movement based on the same idea: to create an organization to train the next generation of ideologically pure socialist-communist leaders.
And this is why Anders Breivik tried to exterminate as many of the Workers’ Youth League (AUF) of the Labour Party in Norway as possible. And his doing so has effectively crippled the socialist-communist effort to destroy Norway and the Norwegians as a unique nation and people, for a generation or two.
In any event, the Boy Scouts represent an organization in America that embraces many things the left hates and wants to destroy, because they are the opposite of the leftist agenda. These things include:
1) Embrace of religion and religious values.
2) An apolitical nature. Unless they are leftist, then they are “the enemy.”
3) Endorsement of traditional values of family, loyalty, patriotism, Americanism, and individuality.
4) Personal and sexual morality, which leftists find abhorrent.
Importantly, the Socialist International, an organization of leftist political parties from around the world, to which the Democrats are affiliated, if not members, holds as its platform several ideas in contention with the Boy Scouts.
That nations, religions, history, unique cultures and peoples exist for no reason, are inherently bad and cause war. Therefore socialists must strive to internationalize, homogenize and make humans as generic as possible.
Individual success and failure are to be discouraged, with low level mediocrity much preferred over individual success based on intelligence, skill, motivation, talent, wealth or other unfair things.
Abundance in anything is seen as destructive to socialism, in which all things must be rationed by the state to maintain its power. So that which is abundant must be wasted or destroyed, or the fact of its abundance concealed from the public. Abundance is to be reserved solely for the ruling elites.
I'm sorry to undermine your argument but I discovered recently that they have been admitting girls into the Boy Scouts for some time. I have spoken to some of these girls and they seem to be doing OK. BTW they did not appear to be lesbian.
As for the gay scouts, I too am concerned about the recent decision. But I'm not sure if it would be better to have a 100% gay troop that is all about being gay. I did know one boy who came out as gay after he had been in the Boy Scouts. At the time he was in the Scouts I always thought he was a nice kid and my impression was that he was a good scout. If there were any problems concerning his membership, I don't know about them. But I'm not sure that there wouldn't be problems in other cases. I do agree that gays should not be scout leaders.
No because then disgusting boys and unattractive girls would required to tent together to prevent hanky panky.
There have been gay scouts since scouting began. We had gay kids in our troop back in 1973. But we did not care because our identity was not based on what we did with our penises. We were not doing anything with our penises.
We were taught about loyalty, and trust-worthiness. We learned about team work. We learned about how the world worked.
Our sexuality was not even a consideration.
I am so sick of seeing how people define themselves by what they do with their sex organs.
Canada already has a Gay/Lesbian troop...since 1999
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/19991103/aponline161126_000.htm
“Scouts” 18-26!?! They march in the Toronto Gay Pride Parade too. Contact your local BSA Councils. The vote is next month!
Gays don’t want separate groups just for gays. They want to force themselves where they’re not wanted, and they want to force straights to have to accept them and say that they’re normal.
Not a problem.
First of all, it would be impractical to form an all-gay scouts group. Not even an issue. With the small percentage of the population that is gay, and an even smaller percentage that would even be interested in the activities of Scouting, it would be impractical.
Second, there have always been, IIRC, Scouts, though rare, who are attracted to the same gender, however, the BSA has not been forward with people excercising indiscretion about one’s sexual behavior, regardless of whether or not you are homosexual. Discussions about our girlfriends may have happened in a private context, and some scouts may have been gay, but plenty of the actual scouts were generally discrete about it if they actually were.
What has come along to the BSA, and a lot of the world at large, is about fanning your properly private sexual attractions and/or behaviors out for everyone to know about. It’s not proper, but hey, so long as plenty of private organizations can end up getting shut down, you can throw in plenty of statist ideology ones to replace them, and never mind the mounting national debt, mounting inflation, or the nuclear armaggeddon behind the curtain.
How about just leaving the Scouts alone?