[INVAR]

Are you kidding me?

It TOOK WAR to establish our liberty from tyrants.

It will TAKE WAR to preserve what is left of our liberty from tyrants.

Or was Jefferson wrong when he discussed the absolute need of watering the Tree of Liberty?

If we’re not willing to do what it takes to keep what is left of essential liberty, then slavery and death is our near-term future, and a meager existence will be labeled ‘freedom’ - for the privilege to live as the State dictates.

[Jacquerie]

Save your snark. Just answer my question.

[BroJoeK]

INVAR post #16: "Since we would not fight when the cost would have been bloodless, we are arrived at a point where we will have to fight a futile attempt to preserve our own lives, or live as slaves."

Jacquerie post #18: "Tell me what war will accomplish."

INVAR post #20: "It TOOK WAR to establish our liberty from tyrants.
It will TAKE WAR to preserve what is left of our liberty from tyrants."

Any talk of war today is as foolish as it was when Fire Eaters proposed secession and war in 1860 -- as their answer to protecting their most valued "peculiar institution".

It didn't work then -- instead accomplished the just the opposite.
It won't work now.
A different, lawful peaceful, course must be found.